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[tree-fancier123]

56 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

To reward Hamas for their actions ie  the unprovoked attack that triggered the latest round of confrontations is a dangerous path for any western government to go down. 

To reward Israel for snatching so much of the Palestinian land in the West Bank and now destroying most of Gaza by not wading in with boots on the ground is a stain on all governments.

A coalition force (with China to dissuade American nukes) is needed to mop up IDF and get some food and life back into Gaza.

The Israelis were terrorists long before Hamas came on the scene - 

 

Let me recall to the House the details of the two incidents to which I wish to refer. First, there was the flogging case. On 27th December, a young Jew, who had been sentenced to imprisonment and caning, had the sentence of caning carried out. His offence, I believe, had been robbery with violence at a bank. On 29th December, a British officer and three noncommissioned officers were kidnapped and flogged. It was openly said by the Irgun that that was a reprisal for the caning of the youth. I

[Johnsond]

6 hours ago, tree-fancier123 said:

wading in with boots on the ground is a stain on all governments.

We don’t have hardly any boots left to put on the ground. Military intervention 🤔🤔Iraq, Afghanistan etc etc it tends not to work out well in that part  of the world as the Americans found out years ago in Beirut. 

 

6 hours ago, tree-fancier123 said:

The Israelis were terrorists long before Hamas came on the scene - 

?? Your point “ 1947”

Watch some of the footage of the murders, rapes, beheadings during the  Hamas attack that started this latest round of violence. Hamas have taken sadistic terrorism to a new level.
Why do their immediate Arab neighbours not want Hamas on their soil 🤔

 

 

Edited July 26 by Johnsond

[tree-fancier123]

12 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

We don’t have hardly any boots left to put on the ground. Military intervention 🤔🤔Iraq, Afghanistan etc etc it tends not to work out well in that part  of the world as the Americans found out years ago in Beirut. 

 

?? Your point “ 1947”

 

 

we don't have a big army - why I suggested a coalition

 

Orgreave was 40 years ago, 1947 was nearly 80 years ago. Things in the past are what makes today today

 

The Irgun policy was based on what was then called Revisionist Zionism founded by Ze'ev Jabotinsky.^[2] Two of the most infamous operations for which the Irgun were known; the bombing of the British administrative headquarters for Mandatory Palestine in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946 and the Deir Yassin massacre that killed at least 107 Palestinian Arab villagers, including women and children, carried out with Lehi on 9 April 1948.

On 20/07/2025 at 23:24, Johnsond said:

Government launches Orgreave inquiry, 40 years after clashes at miners’ strike

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Move follows decades of campaigning over violent policing and collapsed prosecutions at South...

A long long time overdue, sadly after the police have had the time to destroy much of the evidence. 

 

[Johnsond]

9 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

we don't have a big army - why I suggested a coalition

 

Orgreave was 40 years ago, 1947 was nearly 80 years ago. Things in the past are what makes today today

 

The Irgun policy was based on what was then called Revisionist Zionism founded by Ze'ev Jabotinsky.^[2] Two of the most infamous operations for which the Irgun were known; the bombing of the British administrative headquarters for Mandatory Palestine in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946 and the Deir Yassin massacre that killed at least 107 Palestinian Arab villagers, including women and children, carried out with Lehi on 9 April 1948.

 

Ah a bit of  “ Whataboutery” bit early for that I’d think. Comparing the chaos of the post WW2 era to Hamas actions 🤷‍♂️
Orgreave = British soil. 
So you think recent military interventions in that area have been successful??

 

[Steven P]

1 hour ago, Johnsond said:

So you think recent military interventions in that area have been successful??

 

I think that is a point that many have made, Israeli military interventions into Gaza... a rip roaring success?

[Steven P]

On 25/07/2025 at 09:27, Johnsond said:

May I be as bold to suggest that an ex Met DCI might  just have a bit more understanding of policing than an Arbtalk libtard. 

 

Still cannot un-see it: 

May I be as bold to suggest that an ex Met DCI might  just have a bit more understanding of policing than an Arbtalk leotard. 

[Steven P]

11 hours ago, Johnsond said:

Few of the ATL on the drink it seems tonight 🤷‍♂️😂

 

To be honest, if you are a shining example of someone who never drinks, I am glad that there are those who do drink! You do appear particularly grumpy this week though, not sure if it is having to spend family time at home, you have popped your cork too early that your orange god is visiting, withdrawal symptoms that you are not hanging about with other men in your latex scuba gimp suit, or just PMSing. I would try a drink - might lighten you up a little

 

[Johnsond]

22 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

To be honest, if you are a shining example of someone who never drinks, I am glad that there are those who do drink! You do appear particularly grumpy this week though, not sure if it is having to spend family time at home, you have popped your cork too early that your orange god is visiting, withdrawal symptoms that you are not hanging about with other men in your latex scuba gimp suit, or just PMSing. I would try a drink - might lighten you up a little

 

Pure standard blagger SP BS.
You know SP those comments you made again last night bringing family and my kids into your sick ****************ing Trump obsessed world. The one thing I’d like today is to have you stood in front of me. Alternatively PM me SP I’ve a couple of gigs coming up in Glasgow with the mrs and one of my daughters, let’s meet and you can make your Trump, Rape,Daughter wisecracks without the veil of anonymity Arbtalk offers you. 

Edited July 26 by Johnsond

[Bolt]

13 hours ago, Steven P said:

Taking his daughters a long long way away from Trump I notice. Not that he is a danger to young girls of course.

I enjoy the spectacle of grown men keyboard wrestling with strangers as much as the next man, but I think dragging someone’s kids / daughters into it, just to score petty points in beyond low.

 

[daveindales]

3 hours ago, tree-fancier123 said:

we don't have a big army - why I suggested a coalition

 

Orgreave was 40 years ago, 1947 was nearly 80 years ago. Things in the past are what makes today today

 

The Irgun policy was based on what was then called Revisionist Zionism founded by Ze'ev Jabotinsky.^[2] Two of the most infamous operations for which the Irgun were known; the bombing of the British administrative headquarters for Mandatory Palestine in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946 and the Deir Yassin massacre that killed at least 107 Palestinian Arab villagers, including women and children, carried out with Lehi on 9 April 1948.

 

Slightly off topic, but after WW2, my grandfather (Royal Engineers) was posted to Palestine and with the aid of a bulldozer helped clear the bombed King David Hotel you mention above