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[sime42]

11 hours ago, Johnsond said:

I absolutely agree 👍 worse still I could just behave like you never asked them in the first place. Mind you 42 you do tend to kick the arse out of them a bit. 

 

Make your mind up 42, one minute it’s “ you just dont  get it” the next it’s praise regarding my intellect 🤔could it be you are not being very genuine 🤦😂

 

Jeez you love a question don’t you. 
Yeah good night 42, amazing vibe here at the moment what with carnival etc ( definitely a much happier less BS and rules, just get on with life type of place compared to the suffocating oppressive relentless regulation type environment we live under in the UK) 

Food if you want to be adventurous is good,  but I’m quite a plain eater  if I’m being honest so tend keep it simple. 
Anyway work beckons. 
Dont have the time to go into too much detail but at least I’ve endeavoured to answer your questions, hopefully SP takes notice. 

 

No, not really. I was hoping to engage you in a reasoned discussion on the impact of illegal immigrants on the NHS. You'll have to drop your weird obsession with Stephen P for a short time though. 

 

Back, I don't know how many pages, to your assertion that the NHS is being used to care for tens of thousands of illegal immigrants. Have you got any figures for that? What percentage of them access an NHS service, after arriving yesterday? It's just that the vast majority of non-indigenous people, immigrants, that I see in healthcare settings are elderly, male and female gender of equal proportion and quite often obese, to a greater or lesser extent. I.e. not the demographic of your average seafaring, rubber dinghy borne "illegal". (You'd expect fighting age males to be pretty fit and healthy after all).

I'd wager that the obesity epidemic, and lesser public health issues, are costing the NHS considerably more than immigrants. Along with private healthcare parasites, creeping privatisation. What do you think we should do to combat that? Combatting immigration won't help with that at all.

Not to mention the fact that the NHS is hugely staffed by immigrants. That's a whole other strand to the conversation. Its complicated.

 Any thoughts, care to discuss?  

 

 

 

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, sime42 said:

You'll have to drop your weird obsession with Stephen P for a short time though. 

🤷‍♂️From a man who’s just spent two days asking questions 😞very disappointing 42. 
Just goes to show how much slack having the same political views gets you. 

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, sime42 said:

I was hoping to engage you in a reasoned discussion on the impact of illegal immigrants on the NHS

Were you really 42 🤔

 

[Johnsond]

Radical Islam at its worst. Good to see a bit of recognition for the innocent lives lost that day. Somewhat like the recent D Day anniversary it doesn’t seem to count for nothing to some of the most prolific posters on here. 

Thousands of petals fall in St Paul's to remember 52 victims of July 7 bombings on 20th anniversary

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[Johnsond]

Armed cop feared brothers would take his gun during Manchester Airport bust-up, jury told

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Mohammed Fahir Amaaz, 20, and Muhammad Amaad, 26, both of Tarnside Close in Rochdale, deny...

It will be interesting to see how this pans out. No doubt Starmer will be bricking it at the thought of having to see them go down. Unlike his enthusiastic lock em up mentality towards the so called “ far right”. Breaking the nose of a WPC plus the assault caught on camera and the one before this must surely warrant more than 30 months. No doubt they are on legal aid too. 
Fortunately for them the UK police operate under stricter rules of engagement than many countries , try that in the likes of the USA and the justice would have delivered at the cost a few 9mm rounds, which would have been a bit of a bargain. 

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[Dan]

It's not often that I completely agree with you. But yes definitely got the right view in my opinion 

[Mark J]

https://www.perplexity.ai/page/first-human-trials-of-ai-desig-V53_kF9hRZmvQlw3OhrwSA

 

 

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[Steven P]

I think there are going to be major strops about AI drugs, if the decades old method of mRNA vaccines (the covid type) are considered too new and untested then AI invented vaccines? not sure that will get universal acceptance

[sime42]

On 05/07/2025 at 00:09, Johnsond said:

............. but whilst it’s being used to care for tens of thousands of illegals..........

 

On 05/07/2025 at 01:02, Johnsond said:

..... ..............The insanity of it is the fact I get the same level of treatment as an illegal immigrant arriving yesterday .............. 

 

So, back to your assertion that the NHS is being used to care for tens of thousands of illegal immigrants. Have you got any figures for that? What percentage of them access an NHS service, after arriving yesterday? It's just that the vast majority of non-indigenous people, immigrants, that I see in healthcare settings are elderly, male and female gender of equal proportion and quite often obese, to a greater or lesser extent. I.e. not the demographic of your average seafaring, rubber dinghy borne "illegal". (You'd expect fighting age males to be pretty fit and healthy after all).

I'd wager that the obesity epidemic, and lesser public health issues, are costing the NHS considerably more than immigrants. Along with private healthcare parasites sucking money out, due to creeping privatisation. What do you think we should do to combat those things? Combatting immigration won't help with them at all.

Not to mention the fact that the NHS is hugely staffed by immigrants. That's a whole other strand to the conversation. Its complicated.

 Any thoughts, care to discuss?  

 

[Johnsond]

31 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

 

So, back to your assertion that the NHS is being used to care for tens of thousands of illegal immigrants. Have you got any figures for that? What percentage of them access an NHS service, after arriving yesterday? It's just that the vast majority of non-indigenous people, immigrants, that I see in healthcare settings are elderly, male and female gender of equal proportion and quite often obese, to a greater or lesser extent. I.e. not the demographic of your average seafaring, rubber dinghy borne "illegal". (You'd expect fighting age males to be pretty fit and healthy after all).

I'd wager that the obesity epidemic, and lesser public health issues, are costing the NHS considerably more than immigrants. Along with private healthcare parasites sucking money out, due to creeping privatisation. What do you think we should do to combat those things? Combatting immigration won't help with them at all.

Not to mention the fact that the NHS is hugely staffed by immigrants. That's a whole other strand to the conversation. Its complicated.

 Any thoughts, care to discuss?  

 

Well done 42, for starters they are entitled to primary and secondary care free of charge, they are entitled to and will register at a GP practice “ which is not free by the way”. I’ll leave you to research the GP funding model. So how many came over last year or the year before or the year before that??. Calculate that figure and I guess you will have a number for those whom have accessed the NHS. I know there are medical teams providing care and support for Border  force as soon as they arrive all of which needs paying for. 

The post I put up was a general reply to Mark J about privatisation of the NHS. My position that in its current format where it’s a free for all set up ie that it’s not sustainable or fair “ my words” is imo valid. Now it was you whom went all Paxman or Walden and started demanding exact statistics and figures to compare against things like obesity and other issues etc etc. I’ve neither the time nor interest to play your statistics game as experience has taught me any answer with you will never be enough or alternatively it will be met with another handful of questions asking every minuscule detail. 
I see today the OBR is warning about the triple lock and running out of money. Maybe our focus from the very bottom up should be charity begins at home, looking after our elderly not worrying about providing wigs and interpreter’s.  Few screenshots for you 42 feel free to do a bit of digging. 

Edited July 9 by Johnsond