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[Mesterh]

1 hour ago, Mick Dempsey said:

How is that grim? You’re living in the most affluent, free, least corrupt countries in the world, you’ve won the lottery compared to the huge majority of people born in (as Trump said) ‘shithole countries’

Count your lucky stars!

Quite agree. We really have little to complain about, even less when you compare it to many other countries. I'm not saying that things can't always be improved upon but I can't think of many other countries that I would prefer to live in.

[eggsarascal]

14 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

Quite agree. We really have little to complain about, even less when you compare it to many other countries. I'm not saying that things can't always be improved upon but I can't think of many other countries that I would prefer to live in.

Ya pair of planks, get about and see the country, it's a shithole in places. Admittedly not the worst place I've been but I'd like to see you hard men walking the streets at night.

[sime42]

Not sure we are the least corrupt any more. I honestly think we have some of the worst governance in my lifetime and I say that as someone who has several times voted for the conservatives but this lot seem to be a different breed who have no honestly, no honour or integrity.

That it's in a nutshell; honestly, honour, integrity and empathy. They are all dead with the current lot in charge.
I'm not into party politics, I don't have a particular dislike of Conservatives, having voted for them several times in the past, when their policies have aligned with my views. I've heard a few old school senior Tories interviewed over the last couple of years, they've were all of the opinion that what we have now is not a Conservative government.

[Mesterh]

21 minutes ago, eggsarascal said:

Ya pair of planks, get about and see the country, it's a shithole in places. Admittedly not the worst place I've been but I'd like to see you hard men walking the streets at night.

Just because it isn't perfect doesn't mean it's shit. There are far, far worse places that you wouldn't want to be no matter what time of the day in a hell of a lot of other countries. Are there any countries that don't have their fair share of shitholes?

 

[eggsarascal]

1 hour ago, Mesterh said:

Just because it isn't perfect doesn't mean it's shit. There are far, far worse places that you wouldn't want to be no matter what time of the day in a hell of a lot of other countries. Are there any countries that don't have their fair share of shitholes?

 

Which bit of "not the worst place" I've been did you misunderstand?

[Mesterh]

I dunno what you are talking about. So the UK isn't the worst place you have been but we shouldn't walk the streets at night? Or are you talking about a specific place in the UK as I must have missed that bit.

 

The UK is a fantastic country and I feel privileged to have been born here. There's nothing stopping people who hate the place from emigrating now is there. Will leave some well needed room.

 

 

[eggsarascal]

13 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

I dunno what you are talking about. So the UK isn't the worst place you have been but we shouldn't walk the streets at night? Or are you talking about a specific place in the UK as I must have missed that bit.

 

The UK is a fantastic country and I feel privileged to have been born here. There's nothing stopping people who hate the place from emigrating now is there. Will leave some well needed room.

 

 

No I'm not talking of one specific place, come here and walk the centres of Stoke, Derby or Nottingham (for example) at night,  your mind would soon be changed.

 

unfortunately it seems only the intelligent emigrate, leaving the hard of thinking and seeing behind.

 

 

[Big J]

21 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

I dunno what you are talking about. So the UK isn't the worst place you have been but we shouldn't walk the streets at night? Or are you talking about a specific place in the UK as I must have missed that bit.

 

The UK is a fantastic country and I feel privileged to have been born here. There's nothing stopping people who hate the place from emigrating now is there. Will leave some well needed room.

 

 

 

Well I wouldn't say that I hate the place! 😁

 

There has been a widening of the gap between the richest and the poorest here in the UK over the past 30 years or so, accelerated in the past 10-15. It's much more apparent here in southern England than in Scotland (IMO).

 

I think that the quality of life is dropping pretty quickly now too, with unprecedented pressures on personal finances, coupled with tax rises and public service cuts. I'm not sure what is going to be left in terms of government budget in a decade or so, if interest rates rise and public debt has to be serviced.

 

I have no idea what the answer is really. Any notion that I think might affect reasonable change is too controversial or culturally incompatible I think. 

 

I just feel very lucky to be in a position to move to country where fundamentally everyone seems to be a lot less stressed and a lot healthier. That said, I've not yet been in Sweden for Midsommar, where reputedly several months worth of alcohol are drunk in one boozy, frog dancing evening! 

[sime42]

 
Well I wouldn't say that I hate the place! [emoji16]
 
There has been a widening of the gap between the richest and the poorest here in the UK over the past 30 years or so, accelerated in the past 10-15. It's much more apparent here in southern England than in Scotland (IMO).
 
I think that the quality of life is dropping pretty quickly now too, with unprecedented pressures on personal finances, coupled with tax rises and public service cuts. I'm not sure what is going to be left in terms of government budget in a decade or so, if interest rates rise and public debt has to be serviced.
 
I have no idea what the answer is really. Any notion that I think might affect reasonable change is too controversial or culturally incompatible I think. 
 
I just feel very lucky to be in a position to move to country where fundamentally everyone seems to be a lot less stressed and a lot healthier. That said, I've not yet been in Sweden for Midsommar, where reputedly several months worth of alcohol are drunk in one boozy, frog dancing evening! 

You're a lucky man. Maybe come back to dirty old Blighty for Midsommar though ........

Midsommar - Wikipedia

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[Big J]

5 minutes ago, sime42 said:

You're a lucky man. Maybe come back to dirty old Blighty for Midsommar though ........
 

Midsommar - Wikipedia

EN.M.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

 

Well bugger that! 😬

I intend to spend our first midsommar there (which will be 2023) down at the beach with the kids. We'll walk the 5 minutes home and watch the sun set from one of the balconies overlooking the garden and forest. 

 

Though I'm not allowed to shoot the deer in the garden (of which there are many). My wife has forbidden it. Plus it's technically illegal!