Making the news today....

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

18 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Datestamp on that pic Mark?

 

I take your point of course, I’m not sure you grasped mine though....

 

Your pic doesn’t really highlight a cohort that moves from 1 protest group to another without any apparent ‘loyalty’ to what ever the cause actually is. 

[Mark J]

5 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Datestamp on that pic Mark?

 

I take your point of course, I’m not sure you grasped mine though....

 

Your pic doesn’t really highlight a cohort that moves from 1 protest group to another without any apparent ‘loyalty’ to what ever the cause actually is. 

Ah, so it's alright to be a cohort so long as the 'cause' is a racist one? EDL/ National Action/BNP/Combat 18/Britain First etc....

It'll all be a thing of the past if Patel and her lot get their way: 

What is the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill and how will it change protests?

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Public protests have pushed the government's controversial new police bill into the spotlight.

 

Edited March 21, 2021 by Mark J

[Khriss]

11 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

Uck off you Marxist unt!

Clearly yr readying for the Cornish Feudal Transition (  wot with house prices creeping up past Town prices) whats going to be next on the agenda Kev?  K

[Khriss]

Frankly the thing that got me most annoyed were the clearly well positioned shots of that woman being held down by the Police, good quality and similar to the other  crowd shots she can clearly be seen in...... K

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

1 hour ago, Mark J said:

Ah, so it's alright to be a cohort so long as the 'cause' is a racist one? EDL/ National Action/BNP/Combat 18/Britain First etc....

It'll all be a thing of the past if Patel and her lot get their way: 

What is the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill and how will it change protests?

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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Public protests have pushed the government's controversial new police bill into the spotlight.

 

OK I'll take the bait....

 

I know you're not that obtuse.

 

There are those - ranging from aunt Molly to Sid the Nazi that have (currently) an absolute right to protest regardless of how engaged / sympathetic, or otherwise, the 'rest of us' might be with their cause.

 

That is just a matter of the reality we live in.

 

There is also a quantifiable mass of anti establishment / anarchist / new hippy / dead legs that float between any public protest, regardless of the cause, with the premeditated intention of sparking, contributing to and/or amplifying lawlessness and criminality.  

 

That is the cohort I was being critical of - but you absolutely knew that already treacle...  

 

I'm (probably / almost) as concerned as you probably are with the potential for new restrictions on the right to protest but I'm not constrained by thinking it is only 'unjust' for the type of protest that I might be sympathetic too - it has to apply equally to all regardless of how personally disinterested one might be in the subject of the protest.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

49 minutes ago, Khriss said:

Clearly yr readying for the Cornish Feudal Transition (  wot with house prices creeping up past Town prices) whats going to be next on the agenda Kev?  K

Rumour has it the town and parish stocks are being readied for any "strangers" that might start sneaking in before lock down is eased...

[Mark J]

 

10 minutes ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

 

 

That is the cohort I was being critical of - but you absolutely knew that already treacle...  

 

I'm (probably / almost) as concerned as you probably are with the potential for new restrictions on the right to protest but I'm not constrained by thinking it is only 'unjust' for the type of protest that I might be sympathetic too - it has to apply equally to all regardless of how personally disinterested one might be in the subject of the protest.

Thanks for clearing that up honey,

It's good that people from across the political spectrum agree that the new 'Police' bill is a cause for alarm.

Edited March 21, 2021 by Mark J

[agg221]

4 hours ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Just because you don’t like holidays doesn’t mean others don’t. 
I think reckless gamble is over dramatizing it a bit.

 

I think if you’re vaccinated and it’s a low risk country then it should be ok.

I hope so.

 

Unlike many on this forum, my job is desk-based, so I have had no choice but to work from home for the past year. I therefore have no interest in taking time off work to sit and look at the same four walls.

 

I have school age children and my wife is a teacher, so I am tied to school holidays.

 

Last year, I took two weeks off in total (and that mostly includes weekends and Bank Holidays too, and does include working straight through Christmas). It reached the point last summer where I didn't care where we went, what we did or how much it cost - I just needed to stop and actually enjoy something. My wife booked something on the Wednesday, we flew on the Saturday and I found out where we were were going when we got to the airport. We went to Rhodes for a fortnight - sun, warm sea, good food, no work whatsoever.

 

Europe may be just entering another lockdown - we haven't even come out of one. For all practical purposes relating to deriving any pleasure from life (unless what you want out of life is to sit and watch the television or walk around a shopping centre), lockdown continues until at least mid-May, so at least five months which is significantly longer than the first one. Timing is about the same as last year on mainland Europe for going in to lockdown, but there are fewer vulnerable people (sadly) and some vaccination has happened so it would seem reasonable that it will open up again on the same timeframe as last year and a summer break may be possible. Otherwise it looks like I will be taking even fewer days off than last year.

 

Alec

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

1 hour ago, Mark J said:

 

Thanks for clearing that up honey,

It's good that people from across the political spectrum agree that the new 'Police' bill is a cause for alarm.

You know I’m no fan of centrally imposed government Mark. 
 

The prospective new measures are (or should be) a cause for alarm to (what I think is) the vast majority of those with any inclination towards lawful protest. 
 

The trouble is, things evolve and those with a mind to push the boundaries of lawfulness will do just that. 
 

Take XR MO for example. At the point where one person’s right to lawful protest prevents another person from going about their lawful business we find ourselves with a situation where those that seek to exercise their rights impinge upon the rights of others - you see the dichotomy I’m sure. 
 

We’re probably closer to being on the same page than might immediately be apparent 👍🏻

[openspaceman]

2 hours ago, kevinjohnsonmbe said:

I'm (probably / almost) as concerned as you probably are with the potential for new restrictions on the right to protest but I'm not constrained by thinking it is only 'unjust' for the type of protest that I might be sympathetic too - it has to apply equally to all regardless of how personally disinterested one might be in the subject of the protest.

Interesting synchronicity, the current policing bill going through parliament is ambiguously  worded, ostensibly it's to allow the police to deal with illegal travellers' parking up but the interpretation could be far more wide ranging. Trespass has been a civil offence  for a long time and I think this act will make much innocent trespassing a criminal offence, such as detouring around an obstruction on a right of way or unblocking a footpath.

 

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