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[skyhuck]

Just now, Mick Dempsey said:

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Really? Please explain.

If you see a homeless girl is it wrong to give them some cash, in the hope it may help them in the short term?

 

Describing such people as " feeling self-satisfied" is unfair. I want to help if I can, what options do I have, other than giving them some cash or buying them some food?

 

Are those who simply walk by pretending not to see them somehow better people?

 

[Mick Dempsey]

If that girl is using it to buy heroin, then yes it’s wrong.

 

As for what options you have, giving to homeless charities or the like   seems to be a better way of helping.

 

 

[skyhuck]

3 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

If that girl is using it to buy heroin, then yes it’s wrong.

 

As for what options you have, giving to homeless charities or the like   seems to be a better way of helping.

 

 

I'm not saying its right, I'm saying judging people motives in such a way is out of order, IMO.

 

[skyhuck]

Plus charities are excellent at wasting money and giving many of those involved very well payed jobs or cushy lifestyles, IME.

 

I'd sooner cut out the middle men.

[eggsarascal]

4 minutes ago, Mick Dempsey said:

If that girl is using it to buy heroin, then yes it’s wrong.

 

As for what options you have, giving to homeless charities or the like   seems to be a better way of helping.

 

 

If she wasn't getting that money begging she'd get it another way, either theft or heaven forbid prostitution.

 

As for giving money to some charities, not while the CEO's are on massive wages, bonuses and pensions.

[eggsarascal]

Just now, skyhuck said:

Plus charities are excellent at wasting money and giving many of those involved very well payed jobs or cushy lifestyles, IME.

 

I'd sooner cut out the middle men.

Beat me to it.

[Mick Dempsey]

1 minute ago, skyhuck said:

Plus charities are excellent at wasting money and giving many of those involved very well payed jobs or cushy lifestyles, IME.

 

I'd sooner cut out the middle men.

Give it straight to the dealer?

[skyhuck]

1 minute ago, Mick Dempsey said:

Give it straight to the dealer?

You're being silly.

[Mick Dempsey]

3 minutes ago, Chessa said:

IMO the villain of the piece is Poverty itself.

 

I have been homeless myself. Not proud of it. Nomadic is easier.

 

Just as with any toxic personal relationship (in this case - a relationship of individuals within a society) : it is futile to declare the persecutor, the victim and the rescuer for the purposes of healing.

 

These books are good to read for food for thought at least:

 

Poverty Safari - Darren Mc Garvey

The New Poverty - Stephen Armstrong

Utopia for Realists - Rutger Bregman

 

 

Heroin has nothing to do with it?

[Ratman]

IMO the villain of the piece is Poverty itself.
 
I have been homeless myself. Not proud of it. Nomadic is easier.
 
Just as with any toxic personal relationship (in this case - a relationship of individuals within a society) : it is futile to declare the persecutor, the victim and the rescuer for the purposes of healing.
 
These books are good to read for food for thought at least:
 
Poverty Safari - Darren Mc Garvey
The New Poverty - Stephen Armstrong
Utopia for Realists - Rutger Bregman
 
 

You read too much Chessa [emoji15] i couldnt take it all in, i’d get all my words in a mucking fuddle ?. Not to argue against anyones hardships or misfortunes, as i’ve been lucky in life as of yet. I’m not sure in this case it could be just specifically blamed on poverty?
Timon did explain that the girl had a child that stayed with her mother (childs grandmother) and he had witnessed her coming to the scene and approaching her, begging her to come back home for xmas etc, that would suggest that financially she could have been supported? Do you think she could have been ill (mentally) causing her to end up doing what she did on the streets?