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[Gabriel82]

@Mesterh  I forgot to mention: 

I know personally 2 cops and asked them if they would hesitate to use their newely received beretta px4. 

 

They avoid shooting unless they really have to. 

And even then they don't target vital areas(main body chest) ,just legs to stop you and neutralize you. 

 

This is different from any other police where they train you to shoot for main body part/chest are. 

 

Especially in USA! 

 

And yes ,I maintain all said above even if ANY woman/girl relative of mine got shot as happened with this white american lady! 

 

But I have to say: ALL my female relatives know what a cop is ,know what laws are and respect both.

 

Hell, my sister is a high ranking officer in a law enforcing branch here in Romania.

 

So sensitive job/branch that I am not allowed to use anything to take a picture of her in uniform! 

 

As a note: today I can sleep good in my house.

 

In 1990's when I was a kid, I remember we locked the door as many times possible AND use extra locks because of criminals doing just about whatever they wanted ,be it day or night...

 

I got robbed at least once coming from school.

 

Beaten up "just once"...

 

My father got robbed in a train of everything he had on him.

 

Thankfully the guy/robber didn't thrown him off the train... 

"Just" robbed and beat him up...

 

So to keep it short: 

I would shoot anyone breaking the law today ,if been a cop. 

 

And make it legal,  with NO criminal charges for the cop.

 

And Amariei cop was not the only one killed while on duty. 

 

There was a cop in Suceava years ago who got stabbed while on duty so bad even his colleagues didn't recognized him...

 

Told to me by active police men right where it happened. I have relatives in Suceava/Botosani counties. 

 

When I was there I went where it happened 400-500 meters away ,a railway station, and asked the police men on duty that day, how was it possible. 

 

Turns out every useless eater with a knife + criminal intentions can surprise you if you turn your back...

 

Anyway, I have things to do. 

Good day

 

 

 

[Steve Bullman]

6 hours ago, Gabriel82 said:

I finally watched the video of this woman and shooting. 

 

People ,let me be clear and honest: 

 

Even HERE in Romania where only few authority people own and can use guns (real bullet 9mm or bigger) , if you see blue and red "blinky lights" on the road you get the fck off the road. 

 

Or at least move to the side as much as you can ,slow down as much as you can. 

 

And in the case of red only "blinky lights" you fully stop as much as you can off the road! 

 

That's a firefighting vehicle ON mission(somebody or something IS burning...).

 

And it happened to me too: police car on mission coming from other side ,were very nice with me for at least trying to make room even if that meant going half car on sidewalk...

 

I got stopped around 00:30 at night for speeding (badly 37km/h over speed limit... luckily I was slowing down there, few km before I was doing 160 km/h...) with blue/red blinky lights.

 

Because I stopped imediately in seconds safely ,stayed in my car ,turned on the interior light so cops can see I obey law and keeping my hands on steering wheel(law around here) until one cop came to my window and asked for the normal things you must have while driving. 

 

I got away with the lowest fine ,said so even by cop, because of my behaviour. 

 

He didn't knew it ,but I was stopped numerous times by british cops,  german cops, austrian cops at night very rude because I am romanian with romanian number plates and I always got away with no fine. 

 

Even in Austria for a broken light bulb right on left side...

 

Since everything was so well lit in that area I  honestly haven"t noticed... 

 

They left but told me to NOT continue my journey home until I fix the left broken light bulb... So I can see where I drive and be safe plus not endanger other drivers.

 

I don't know what was wrong with this woman ,but to BE in the middle of the road with a big SUV , behave like that even when you see red-blue blinky lights IN USA...

 

HAS to be suicidal , considering how US police sees things and how many guns are around!

 

And really, how hard is it to get off the fcnk road if you see red-blue blinky light OR especially obey what guys with guns drawn that just got down FROM the red-blue blinky car  tell you?! 

 

I do not understand her behaviour! 

 

Just judging from actual video I can honestly say nothing to see here ,nothing will happen to ICE agent.

 

She wanted to die. 

Or she was drunk ,drugged, mentaly impaired for the moment! 

 

There is no other explanation for what happened! 

 

And this is how ambush happens: one big truck in front of the target and one behind! 

 

Then OTHER people with guns start shooting! 

 

ICE guys were allready itching to shoot since seeing first car blocking the road...

 

I think it's in their training. 

 

ICE or even normal police in US receive training from army recently. 

 

Besides not usual guns(criminals sonetimes have(had) better/bigger weapons than police...

 

So army+ army training stepped in...

 

Sorry for her but just beeing in USA is dangerous, more so now. 

 

Behaving like that ,WILL get you killed.

This is basically my thinking. She shouldn’t have been shot, but at the same time what was she thinking?

[Steve Bullman]

All kicking off in Iran, watch on x while you still can 

[Mark J]

10 hours ago, Johnsond said:

I rest my case Mark. Leftard arrogance from yourself as usual brought on by a huge dose of TDS. 
Reality is I’m not overly fussed about her death, whilst it’s a shame some kids have lost their biological mother, life goes on. That’s not being callous it’s just the reality of things. 

Nothing to do with arrogance. I genuinely don't understand the sentence with emojis that you wrote, so I asked you to write it in English.

 

Nothing to do with your Trump Dicksucking Syndrome. 

[Johnsond]

33 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Nothing to do with arrogance. I genuinely don't understand the sentence with emojis that you wrote, so I asked you to write it in English.

 

Nothing to do with your Trump Dicksucking Syndrome. 

 Early start with the leftard prick quest today lad especially for you. If you genuinely can’t grasp what’s written there regardless of any grammatical errors then that’s most definitely not a good sign or indication of your cognitive functioning on a Friday night. 
There’s a few on here obsessed with Trump lad, you being one of the worst, like I say in your eyes if you are not a hater then you must support him, I’m indifferent in many respects as it’s not our country and I can’t vote there so out of my hands. Anyway have a read of the article below, maybe grab a cup of tea and get some fresh air, walk off the “ I can take it or leave it” Friday night excess. 

 

 

“Nuance is gone.”

We’ve reached a point where people are openly proud that complexity doesn’t matter anymore. Where the immediate reflex is “pick your team and attack.”

I’ve been watching this Renee Good situation unfold, and it’s textbook “politically homeless” territory.

ICE officers approach a car. There’s a confrontation. Renee Good, the driver, ends up dead. And before any investigation completes, before anyone knows what actually happened - both sides have already decided who’s guilty.

One side screams “murderer.”
The other screams “justified.”

And anyone saying “maybe we should wait for facts” gets attacked by both.

This is the same shit I see every day doing crisis work.

Border Patrol and federal agents I’ve worked with in Mexico - good people trying to do impossible jobs under impossible conditions.

Afghan refugees I’ve helped across borders because the legal system was letting them die.

Both of those things can be true at the same time.

You can believe immigration enforcement is necessary AND believe the system is broken.

You can believe law enforcement does critical work AND believe some officers abuse power.

You can recognize that tense situations lead to split-second decisions AND still demand transparency when those decisions end in death.

But we don’t allow for that anymore.

We’ve built a system where you have to choose: Back the blue no matter what, or all cops are bastards. Support border security completely, or you’re a fascist. Question any immigration enforcement, or you want open borders.

The truth is usually somewhere in the messy middle.

I’ve worked with CBP agents who later saved my ass getting Arezo into the country legally. Same trip, I watched other officials treat desperate families like animals.

I’ve seen Memphis cops show up at 3am to help get a trafficking victim to safety. I’ve also been manhandled by MPD while handcuffed.

Real life is complicated.

But “Nuance is gone” gets celebrated because nuance doesn’t drive engagement. Outrage does. Division does. Tribal loyalty does.

The system profits when you pick a side and stop thinking.

I’m not saying don’t have opinions. I’m saying maybe we should stop treating every incident like a political purity test where you have to defend “your team” no matter what the facts show.

Maybe an ICE officer made a terrible decision.
Maybe Renee Good made terrible decisions.
Maybe they both did.
Maybe neither did, and this was just tragedy.

We don’t know yet.

And the fact that saying “we don’t know yet” makes people angry? That’s the whole ****************ing problem.

I don’t care if you’re pro-cop or anti-cop, pro-ICE or anti-ICE.

I care if you’re willing to let facts matter more than team loyalty.

Because the streets don’t ask how you vote before consequences hit.

And if we keep letting ideology override reality, we’re not solving anything - we’re just yelling “it’s YOUR turn to get more water” at each other while the house burns down around us.

[Mark J]

25 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

 Early start with the leftard prick quest today lad especially for you. If you genuinely can’t grasp what’s written there regardless of any grammatical errors then that’s most definitely not a good sign or indication of your cognitive functioning on a Friday night. 
There’s a few on here obsessed with Trump lad, you being one of the worst, like I say in your eyes if you are not a hater then you must support him, I’m indifferent in many respects as it’s not our country and I can’t vote there so out of my hands. Anyway have a read of the article below, maybe grab a cup of tea and get some fresh air, walk off the “ I can take it or leave it” Friday night excess. 

 

 

“Nuance is gone.”

We’ve reached a point where people are openly proud that complexity doesn’t matter anymore. Where the immediate reflex is “pick your team and attack.”

I’ve been watching this Renee Good situation unfold, and it’s textbook “politically homeless” territory.

ICE officers approach a car. There’s a confrontation. Renee Good, the driver, ends up dead. And before any investigation completes, before anyone knows what actually happened - both sides have already decided who’s guilty.

One side screams “murderer.”
The other screams “justified.”

And anyone saying “maybe we should wait for facts” gets attacked by both.

This is the same shit I see every day doing crisis work.

Border Patrol and federal agents I’ve worked with in Mexico - good people trying to do impossible jobs under impossible conditions.

Afghan refugees I’ve helped across borders because the legal system was letting them die.

Both of those things can be true at the same time.

You can believe immigration enforcement is necessary AND believe the system is broken.

You can believe law enforcement does critical work AND believe some officers abuse power.

You can recognize that tense situations lead to split-second decisions AND still demand transparency when those decisions end in death.

But we don’t allow for that anymore.

We’ve built a system where you have to choose: Back the blue no matter what, or all cops are bastards. Support border security completely, or you’re a fascist. Question any immigration enforcement, or you want open borders.

The truth is usually somewhere in the messy middle.

I’ve worked with CBP agents who later saved my ass getting Arezo into the country legally. Same trip, I watched other officials treat desperate families like animals.

I’ve seen Memphis cops show up at 3am to help get a trafficking victim to safety. I’ve also been manhandled by MPD while handcuffed.

Real life is complicated.

But “Nuance is gone” gets celebrated because nuance doesn’t drive engagement. Outrage does. Division does. Tribal loyalty does.

The system profits when you pick a side and stop thinking.

I’m not saying don’t have opinions. I’m saying maybe we should stop treating every incident like a political purity test where you have to defend “your team” no matter what the facts show.

Maybe an ICE officer made a terrible decision.
Maybe Renee Good made terrible decisions.
Maybe they both did.
Maybe neither did, and this was just tragedy.

We don’t know yet.

And the fact that saying “we don’t know yet” makes people angry? That’s the whole ****************ing problem.

I don’t care if you’re pro-cop or anti-cop, pro-ICE or anti-ICE.

I care if you’re willing to let facts matter more than team loyalty.

Because the streets don’t ask how you vote before consequences hit.

And if we keep letting ideology override reality, we’re not solving anything - we’re just yelling “it’s YOUR turn to get more water” at each other while the house burns down around us.

That has to by the most hypocritical thing you've posted. You and nuance don't fit in the same book. 

[Gabriel82]

1 hour ago, Steve Bullman said:

All kicking off in Iran, watch on x while you still can 

 

I'm still waiting for that 80-90 year old religious fanatic to be captured by the mob.

 

AND a video with him like Lybia's Ghadafi. 

 

 

Will not settle for anything less 😁🙄

[Johnsond]

31 minutes ago, Mark J said:

That has to by the most hypocritical thing you've posted. You and nuance don't fit in the same book. 

Play the ball not the player lad, I get the feeling you ain’t on good form this morning Mark 🤔🤔sore head and angry with life perhaps 😞

Right lad slate hearth to fit for the new Morso and some climate change snow to clear so you will have to wait. Try fresh air and water 👍👍or I always found a good sniff of pure 02 or a dive sorted the head, higher PP02 definitely the ticket. 

[Steven P]

37 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

I get the feeling you ain’t on good form this morning Mark 🤔🤔sore head and angry with life perhaps 😞

 

Tosser.

 

You appear to be even more argumentative this week, more insulting to all, more rightarded that usual. Wonder if the problem is Mrs J isn't giving enough action for your liking over the Christmas period? Perhaps take yourself off for some quality 'thinking time' mighty calm you down?

Edited 14 hours ago by Steven P

[tree-fancier123]

11 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

Tosser.

hey come on now, I realise you get a great feeling of camaraderie from being on Mark J's side and ganging up against the monster, but single word insults like 'Tosser' are not the way to discuss current affairs.

If you feel that Johnsond has become offensive, then just write about a news item that interests you - don't lower yourself even lower than he is.

 

Now this is honest thinking

Trump says US needs to 'own' Greenland to prevent Russia and China from taking it

if Trump can say openly he is scared of China and Russia (who are also monsters) just how much of an arms race can the taxpayer bear? The US needs to own America to prevent China from taking it - hence the tariffs. It's a complex world - Trump is bound to make mistakes. No nukes have gone off yet, so all good