Making the news today....

[Steven P]

Did we mention his Trump phone yet? Taken thousands of $100 deposits for a phone made in the US, no phone in sight yet, but the cash is in his accounts.

[Johnsond]

There is a dedicated thread for TDS sufferers 

[sime42]

13 hours ago, Mesterh said:

At $1,200 its a steal. 

 

Although im not into golf im considering partaking if only to justify buying one of these

 

DJT Driver Cover

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Jesus, the crap people waste their money on. 

 

It's a cult, a quasi-religion. 

 

 

[sime42]

On 27/11/2025 at 21:43, Squaredy said:

Mmmm interesting.  I think it is clear why they removed that line.  It is nonsense.

I guess you don’t know about Nixon and watergate.  Or indeed Clinton. Not to mention many moons ago Harding.

 

Trump has been accused of various things, but so far not much has stuck.

 

That's an interesting stance. We must live in parallel universes. Yes, I've obviously heard of Nixon and Clinton, but not Harding I must admit. We'll have to agree to disagree again.

It's rather a tricky thing to quantify anyway: the exact degree and then ranking of Openness of Corruption. How would it ever be proved one way or another in court if it ever came to that? Why isn't Bregman afraid of Trump coming after him for libel? Maybe he realises that, or maybe he was figuratively speaking. Or maybe he was talking about moral corruption. Who knows. (Whatever the case, Trump habitually makes far more outrageous claims.)

The upshot is that our national broadcaster is being bullied into self-censorship by a foreign leader.  I guess that doesn't bother you, which is a surprise. 

Regardless of magnitude, do you accept that there is a a certain degree of corruption in the Trump administration? Similarly, that the Death of Freedom of Speech is happening to a certain extent? I rather thought you'd be concerned at the latter if nothing else. 

<Trump has been accused of various things..>   - Occam's Razor needs to applied. 
<...but so far not much has stuck.>
- there's probably reasons for that, as already discussed. 
 

 

 

[Steven P]

Nixon and Clinton did the decent thing though and kept any corruption hidden. Trump is not even trying to hide what he is doing.

[Johnsond]

Dedicated Trump thread for TDS sufferers 

 

[Oldfeller]

1 hour ago, Johnsond said:

Dedicated Trump thread for TDS sufferers 

 

 

[Johnsond]

1 hour ago, Oldfeller said:

 

It’s nuts, we have a chancellor whom has basically been caught lying, presiding over an economy going nowhere, an energy minister destroying the N Sea,and importing more and more oil and gas, happy to deindustrialise the UK chasing the fallacy of net zero, a prime minister grandstanding and determined to put underfunded and woefully short of numbers and ill equipped troops into Ukraine whilst refusing to listen to Armrd forces leaders  about the actual state of the forces. Our borders are like a sieve, tens of thousands of worthless shite is being kept at taxpayers expense, people with no respect for our culture and in particular women and girls, whom carry out a disproportionate amount of rapes and sexual assaults, which doesn’t seem to concern the left, yet the main focus in certain deluded arrogant leftard mongs heads seems to be what the democratically elected president of America 🇺🇸 is doing on a minute by minute basis. 
There is a dedicated thread for TDS sufferers 👍👍

Edited 5 hours ago by Johnsond

[Johnsond]

The EU is a busted flush

APPLE.NEWS

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European leaders' failures on Ukraine are one more grim staging post on their road towards irrelevance

Lot of hard truths. 

[Squaredy]

8 hours ago, sime42 said:

It's rather a tricky thing to quantify anyway: the exact degree and then ranking of Openness of Corruption. How would it ever be proved one way or another in court if it ever came to that?

That is exactly the point.  The BBC could never prove that Trump was the most corrupt US president. Especially as only one US President has resigned due to corruption (Nixon).  It was unsafe and unprovable so it was removed.  Seems fair to me.

 

And yes I agree there is undoubtedly a degree of corruption in the Trump administration.  And Biden’s and Obama’s etc, etc.  And indeed the current Uk government, the previous government, and so on.

 

Much as I sometimes hate the media, we really do depend on them to point the finger when there is evidence.  But am I OK with them self censoring?  Yes absolutely, if Trump has made them examine their output to see if it is accurate then thank Trump for that.  Remember that as long as they can prove the accuracy of a statement they cannot be sued for it.  The problem is if they start making statements or giving opinions which are disputed.  We could argue all year about who was the most corrupt US President; but if you state that Trump said this and did that then as long as he did, that cannot end up in court.

 

I do however agree that freedom of speech in the UK is being seriously undermined at the moment, but that is largely by our own government.  The fact we even have a free speech union is shocking enough.  And the examples recently of arrests for what people have said are state over-reach becoming very sinister. But the finger of blame points at our controlling establishment (government, police, councils, schools, universities) not Trump.