Making the news today....

[Stubby]

12 hours ago, Oldfeller said:

Migrant removed to France returns to UK on small boat

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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The man was sent to France under the 'one in, one out' deal but returned via the...

 

That would be the " one in one in " deal then ? and does he get another  2K when they send him back again ? 

Edited 10 hours ago by Stubby

[Mark J]

Elon Musk says he needs $1 trillion to control Tesla's robot army. Yes, really.

ELECTREK.CO

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Elon Musk, who's spent years engaging in questionable public advocacy, just said he wants to "control" an "enormous robot army."

 

[sime42]

16 hours ago, Oldfeller said:

and meanwhile water companies discharging thousands of tons of untreated sewage into the watercourses all over the uk.

cnuts.

 

Indeed. Calling them out as cnuts is the easy bit; stopping them from being cnuts is harder. 

 

 

Thames Water given lowest one star rating for repeated sewage spills

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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England's water companies had their worst combined score since assessment began in 2011.

 

 

 

 

[BillQ]

On 21/10/2025 at 12:58, Johnsond said:

Out of context you say,

Yes I do, the original post was way out of context. Same as adding something to the end of the above, there has to be someone from the police as well as social work and every other agency involved, I think that someone from the judiciary is probably wrong to have as the chair but they should be impartial. 

[BillQ]

1 hour ago, Mark J said:

Elon Musk says he needs $1 trillion to control Tesla's robot army. Yes, really.

ELECTREK.CO

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Elon Musk, who's spent years engaging in questionable public advocacy, just said he wants to "control" an "enormous robot army."

 

[Johnsond]

53 minutes ago, BillQ said:

Yes I do, the original post was way out of context. Same as adding something to the end of the above, there has to be someone from the police as well as social work and every other agency involved, I think that someone from the judiciary is probably wrong to have as the chair but they should be impartial. 

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[BillQ]

3 hours ago, Johnsond said:

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If you don't understand, just ask 

[Johnsond]

23 minutes ago, BillQ said:

If you don't understand, just ask 

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[sime42]

19 hours ago, Squaredy said:

I also used to assume the UN were impartial.  Sadly they are not.  I’m afraid their links to Hamas mean their opinion is irrelevant.

 

And just to remind you, what exactly did Hamas expect Israel would do when over a thousand of their citizens were brutally slaughtered two years ago by an organisation who have the publicly stated aim of killing all Jews?

 

What did Britain do to Germany in response to the Blitz?  Do you know how many civilians were deliberately slaughtered by the British in an attempt to gain the upper hand?

 

Excuse me saying this but you're expressing some pretty bleak, depressing and frankly concerning sentiments there.

To say that the opinion of the UN is irrelevant is somewhat strong. I'd be interested to know what you are basing that statements on. Did you ever have a look at the actual report from the Commission that I linked to a while back, do you disagree with their finding that Israel is committing genocide? A lot of  other parties have reached the same conclusion, independent of the UN. Aid agencies, human rights organisations (including some Israeli ones), genocide scholars etc. They can't all be in bed with Hamas.

"And just to remind you, what exactly did Hamas expect Israel would do when over a thousand of their citizens were brutally slaughtered two years ago by an organisation who have the publicly stated aim of killing all Jews?"

- Who can say, but they probably didn't expect Israel to brutally slaughter >67000 Palestinian citizens. (20000 children, 1 every hour). Palestinian ≠ Hamas. Or do you contest those figures? I question the understanding of the concept of proportionality in this context. Obviously Hamas bear some responsibility here, tunnels under hospitals, human shields, etc, etc; but its naïve to believe that that is the reason we now see near total destruction of all buildings and infrastructure in Gaza. 

Britain did indeed commit some horrendous deeds in WW2. As did all the other protagonists. I'm not excusing any of that, but it was all "of the time", a different era. I used to assume that we'd moved on since then. Maybe not. Irrespective of events in history, I don't see a justification for the Israeli actions. The fact that a terrorist organisation, Hamas, committed genocide on 07/10/23 doesn't make it OK for a state to then itself commit genocide in retribution, or for collective punishment, or for whatever the real reason is. Not for me anyway.  It just reduces them to the base level of the terrorists.