Making the news today....

[Steven P]

Just to note and with extreme venom of course, London has millions of migrants, 100+ years of small boat crossings full of them - for a phenomenon that has only been occurring since Brexit. 

 

If you read this thread you would persuaded that all these small boat crossings are responsible for 100% of the UKs crime. No, say 150%.

 

Got to ask, is it the crime that winds you up, or the nationality of the criminal. I think you have it all topsy-turvy, the actual crime regardless of the criminal is what you need to look at. Not the small portion of all crimes committed by a small portion of small boat crossers, and a tiny portion of all immigrants. Todays excitement appears to be sexual assaults.. in the UK predominantly carried out by white men.

[AHPP]

8 minutes ago, Oldfeller said:

are you saying you are the result of Fetal alcohol syndrome ?

 

No. I'm saying you might be if you can't keep up with what I'm saying. But how about we be civil instead and we might advance discourse and human understanding.

 

15 minutes ago, Oldfeller said:

ok, give an example of this and how it would work.

 

It's not for me to design the world. Nobody can. People try, which is why it's goosed.

But indicatively, no dole, no state housing, no state jobs where people can be hired at the expense of someone who has no say in who's hired. It relies on the eradication (or bloody close to) of the state, which is why it's hard to visualise. We're used to the state. But we don't need it.

[AHPP]

41 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

this 'closer to animals' notion - surely all humans are animals? 

 The raping and other sex crimes by migrants always gets the public's blood up, but its the cost of keeping them that I dont like. 

Even if no migrants ever raped, they would still be a nightmare, putting huge strain on public resources

 

Yes. And people have a right to be who they are, closer to or further from animals or possessing more or less of any other characteristic. Birds of a feather flock together, which generally works. Africans scrat about mud huts for food and dancing. Londoners scrat about Canary Wharf for money and Porsches. Both peoples are surrounded by others with similar outlooks, goals, needs, wants etc so people understand each other and are able to get on and interact with relatively similar and equal understandings and demands of each other.

 

The other way to look at it is to use intelligence as a metric. James Watson, half of the Watson and Crick known for discovering DNA brought up the issue a few years ago. 

In 2007, the scientist, who once worked at the University of Cambridge's Cavendish Laboratory, told the Times newspaper that he was "inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing says not really".

 

From https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46856779

 

He brought it up, from a scientific perspective of looking at a load of intelligence tests and then coming to a conclusion from the numbers. Then all the Brighton types called him a nasty racist so he said sod you and retired from serving the world if reason no longer matters to it.

Edited August 6 by AHPP

[Oldfeller]

23 minutes ago, AHPP said:

No. I'm saying you might be if you can't keep up with what I'm saying. But how about we be civil instead and we might advance discourse and human understanding.

you post that,,, and then talk of civility!

I don't think I want to be at your level of understanding thank you, Your post is so convoluted and ridiculous It's hard to imagine anybody but you understanding it. I'm out.

[AHPP]

26 minutes ago, Oldfeller said:

you post that,,, and then talk of civility!

I don't think I want to be at your level of understanding thank you, Your post is so convoluted and ridiculous It's hard to imagine anybody but you understanding it. I'm out.

 

I'm challenging you to think about things that you probably haven't had to before. I get why that jars. We're used to the way things are, the structures etc. We're trained to not think too hard about it and just get on with the day to day.

But anyway. You don't have to answer the challenge.

[eggsarascal]

I've known Alex for years, trustworthy, reliable from a good family who invited me into their home on many occasions. I understand it makes sense to you Alex, but...

[AHPP]

I don't mind. It's not just written for him. I write for anyone who reads, wants to understand and is capable of understanding. Plenty of people are.

Edited August 6 by AHPP

[AHPP]

But I do agree. I'm a smashing fellow.

[eggsarascal]

14 minutes ago, AHPP said:

But I do agree. I'm a smashing fellow.

That's what it's about, opinions are like arseholes, everyone's got one.

[Steven P]

To be honest I haven't read this research, in the back of my mind it sounds half like I knew it existed - so passed by it somewhere (I do remember Watson and Crick from school days and fruit flies)

 

2 hours ago, AHPP said:

He brought it up, from a scientific perspective of looking at a load of intelligence tests and then coming to a conclusion from the numbers. Then all the Brighton types called him a nasty racist so he said sod you and retired from serving the world if reason no longer matters to it.

 

Anyway... just a passing musing... I am wondering if the intelligence tests were western or European based? Couple of examples from past lives, one company was doing tests to see if we fitted our roles well (really working out redundancies... but will go official line) - standard test for us all, my day to day work fitted the test perfectly, girl from another department - accounts or something - had never done anything similar - so I was marked down as better where it was just experience. Second one goes back to school days - maths - I could do sums, some kids couldn't... until they were asked to work out the premier league table.. and they could do it instantly - no less clever, just less interested. So going back again, I wonder if the Africans are just as clever, but the tests were asking the wrong things?