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[Mesterh]

34 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

You should maybe be asking the members who post relentlessly about Trump day in day out if they are gonna be there to tell him what they think. 

Why should I! You asked that question not me. Im asking you who relentlessly attacks, day in day out, those

who oppose trump why arent you there? Its not like you even have to disagree with trumps views, he just talks so much unbelievable shite I just find it comical. Its not political shite where they fudge an answer to a question its just utter bollocks, you should watch some of his interviews, they are comedy gold.

 

You relentlessly attack the UK government, day in day day out, why aren't you in Westminster telling the gov what you think? A government that UK people democratically voted for blah blah blah blah blah  

 

Anyway, bait post replied to in full for tonight.

 

 

 

 

[Johnsond]

44 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

Why should I! You asked that question not me. Im asking you who relentlessly attacks, day in day out, those

who oppose trump why arent you there? Its not like you even have to disagree with trumps views, he just talks so much unbelievable shite I just find it comical. Its not political shite where they fudge an answer to a question its just utter bollocks, you should watch some of his interviews, they are comedy gold.

 

You relentlessly attack the UK government, day in day day out, why aren't you in Westminster telling the gov what you think? A government that UK people democratically voted for blah blah blah blah blah  

 

Anyway, bait post replied to in full for tonight.

 

 

 

 

Few of the ATL on the drink it seems tonight 🤷‍♂️😂

I shall use the democratic process available to me when the time comes. That’s how it goes as far as I’m aware. I can vote to change things in the UK, I have zero capacity to change things in the USA. 

Edited July 25 by Johnsond

[sime42]

220 MPs call for Keir Starmer to recognise Palestinian state

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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The PM says recognition of a Palestinian state must be part of a "wider plan" to ensure peace in the region.

 

 

 

[Johnsond]

41 minutes ago, sime42 said:

220 MPs call for Keir Starmer to recognise Palestinian state

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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The PM says recognition of a Palestinian state must be part of a "wider plan" to ensure peace in the region.

 

 

 

Since its creation in December 1987, Hamas has invoked militant interpretations of Islam to spearhead a Sunni extremist movement committed to destroying Israel. Hamas distanced itself from the longstanding Palestine
 

To reward Hamas for their actions ie  the unprovoked attack that triggered the latest round of confrontations is a dangerous path for any western government to go down. 

[tree-fancier123]

56 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

To reward Hamas for their actions ie  the unprovoked attack that triggered the latest round of confrontations is a dangerous path for any western government to go down. 

To reward Israel for snatching so much of the Palestinian land in the West Bank and now destroying most of Gaza by not wading in with boots on the ground is a stain on all governments.

A coalition force (with China to dissuade American nukes) is needed to mop up IDF and get some food and life back into Gaza.

The Israelis were terrorists long before Hamas came on the scene - 

 

Let me recall to the House the details of the two incidents to which I wish to refer. First, there was the flogging case. On 27th December, a young Jew, who had been sentenced to imprisonment and caning, had the sentence of caning carried out. His offence, I believe, had been robbery with violence at a bank. On 29th December, a British officer and three noncommissioned officers were kidnapped and flogged. It was openly said by the Irgun that that was a reprisal for the caning of the youth. I

[Johnsond]

6 hours ago, tree-fancier123 said:

wading in with boots on the ground is a stain on all governments.

We don’t have hardly any boots left to put on the ground. Military intervention 🤔🤔Iraq, Afghanistan etc etc it tends not to work out well in that part  of the world as the Americans found out years ago in Beirut. 

 

6 hours ago, tree-fancier123 said:

The Israelis were terrorists long before Hamas came on the scene - 

?? Your point “ 1947”

Watch some of the footage of the murders, rapes, beheadings during the  Hamas attack that started this latest round of violence. Hamas have taken sadistic terrorism to a new level.
Why do their immediate Arab neighbours not want Hamas on their soil 🤔

 

 

Edited July 26 by Johnsond

[tree-fancier123]

12 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

We don’t have hardly any boots left to put on the ground. Military intervention 🤔🤔Iraq, Afghanistan etc etc it tends not to work out well in that part  of the world as the Americans found out years ago in Beirut. 

 

?? Your point “ 1947”

 

 

we don't have a big army - why I suggested a coalition

 

Orgreave was 40 years ago, 1947 was nearly 80 years ago. Things in the past are what makes today today

 

The Irgun policy was based on what was then called Revisionist Zionism founded by Ze'ev Jabotinsky.^[2] Two of the most infamous operations for which the Irgun were known; the bombing of the British administrative headquarters for Mandatory Palestine in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946 and the Deir Yassin massacre that killed at least 107 Palestinian Arab villagers, including women and children, carried out with Lehi on 9 April 1948.

On 20/07/2025 at 23:24, Johnsond said:

Government launches Orgreave inquiry, 40 years after clashes at miners’ strike

APPLE.NEWS

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Move follows decades of campaigning over violent policing and collapsed prosecutions at South...

A long long time overdue, sadly after the police have had the time to destroy much of the evidence. 

 

[Johnsond]

9 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

we don't have a big army - why I suggested a coalition

 

Orgreave was 40 years ago, 1947 was nearly 80 years ago. Things in the past are what makes today today

 

The Irgun policy was based on what was then called Revisionist Zionism founded by Ze'ev Jabotinsky.^[2] Two of the most infamous operations for which the Irgun were known; the bombing of the British administrative headquarters for Mandatory Palestine in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946 and the Deir Yassin massacre that killed at least 107 Palestinian Arab villagers, including women and children, carried out with Lehi on 9 April 1948.

 

Ah a bit of  “ Whataboutery” bit early for that I’d think. Comparing the chaos of the post WW2 era to Hamas actions 🤷‍♂️
Orgreave = British soil. 
So you think recent military interventions in that area have been successful??

 

[Steven P]

1 hour ago, Johnsond said:

So you think recent military interventions in that area have been successful??

 

I think that is a point that many have made, Israeli military interventions into Gaza... a rip roaring success?

[Steven P]

On 25/07/2025 at 09:27, Johnsond said:

May I be as bold to suggest that an ex Met DCI might  just have a bit more understanding of policing than an Arbtalk libtard. 

 

Still cannot un-see it: 

May I be as bold to suggest that an ex Met DCI might  just have a bit more understanding of policing than an Arbtalk leotard.