Making the news today....

[Johnsond]

Migrants run across beach to board dinghy in the Channel

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French authorities in an inflatable boat passed life jackets to those on board the overcrowded dingy...

So that’s where all the money is going, free lifejackets and a cheery  Bon Voyage from the French tourist representatives as they happily wave off a boat load of £42k per year chancers. 

[Steven P]

As Macron says, and we all know, small boat crossings increased exponentially since and because of Brexit. Anyone want to take responsibility for voting for that shit show? Or just sit behind a keyboard moaning, all talk but no action?

 

Might want to consider, have you written to your local MP / SNP representative, have you any considered solutions (apart from shouting "though shall not pass"), have you looked at the causes of small boat crossings, considered what can be done to stop them leaving their own countries in the first place.... or is al lyou ever did was moan constantly to a forum of tree surgeons? Stand up and be counted? No?

[Johnsond]

44 minutes ago, Steven P said:

As Macron says, and we all know, small boat crossings increased exponentially since and because of Brexit. Anyone want to take responsibility for voting for that shit show? Or just sit behind a keyboard moaning, all talk but no action?

 

Might want to consider, have you written to your local MP / SNP representative, have you any considered solutions (apart from shouting "though shall not pass"), have you looked at the causes of small boat crossings, considered what can be done to stop them leaving their own countries in the first place.... or is al lyou ever did was moan constantly to a forum of tree surgeons? Stand up and be counted? No?

No questions blagger until the  loose ends are tidied up. FFS how many times do you need to be told. You can’t be trusted to answer questions therefore 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

 

[tree-fancier123]

44 minutes ago, Steven P said:

Macron says, and we all know, small boat crossings increased exponentially since and because of Brexit. Anyone want responsibility for voting for that shit show? Or just sit behind a keyboard moaning, all talk but no action?

My view is that you SP are not intelligent enough to understand such a complex situation, but you like to think you are.

 

I voted leave. The migrant numbers have been on the up due to global events.

[tree-fancier123]

also that the internet has turned migration into a trend, with smugglers canvassing on social media

[sime42]

(Im)migration is certainly a trend here on Arbtalk. Where is that dedicated thread when we need it?

 

Here's a funny thing. So I've just been in another hospital, the second in almost a week. Guess what? They were both absolutely rammed with immigrants of one flavour or another. I struggled to see a white face amongst the staff actually. All the doctors and consultants that I saw were mainly from the Indian Subcontinent I'd guess. 

 

Here's the really funny part; I didn't see any brown fighting age males, i.e. the people apparently arriving in the boats. The people supposedly breaking our NHS, having arrived only yesterday. Not amoungst the patients anyway. As you'd expect; you'd have to be pretty fit and healthy to even attempt to cross the channel in a little rubber boat. Plenty of young brown blokes who were registrars and consultants though. Very competent they have seemed, the few I've dealt with, so presumably didn't just arrive yesterday. I saw loads of other immigrant patients, but they were male and female of equal proportion, complete range of ages, (but largely older), and in most cases obese to a greater or lesser extent.

 

It's a funny old world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[tree-fancier123]

we can't stop the boats because of all the politicians who think like SP and sime42

 These people dont want to be negative about the incoming sapiens

[Oldfeller]

[BillQ]

4 hours ago, sime42 said:

Guess what? They were both absolutely rammed with immigrants

Same as the one I was in yesterday for 4 hrs and another thing, in all that time there was only one Muslim couple, no other none British patients all that time as they all had Sunderland/NE accents. 

And we're told that waiting times in hospitals is all down to migrants 🤷

[Steven P]

5 hours ago, tree-fancier123 said:

I voted leave. The migrant numbers have been on the up due to global events.

 

Problem with this discussion is that it is very circular, as a forum we get as far as "the problem isn't at Calais / France" and the another stands up shouting "they are still coming" and we go back to the beginning, very rarely acknowledging world events that cause the 'push' for migrants to leave home, very rarely acknowledging that migration can be a benefit (as in the NHS staff noted above), but straight back to following Farage and the Daily Mail and shouting at boats... but standing up to do something you feel strongly about... nah... to much effort.

 

 

Yes, global events, and UK domestic politics, of any party, are going to do very little to affect them once the migrants have had that push to leave. Ahh but we can whinge that our taxes are being used for overseas aid, to reduce that 'push' and then wonder why they are leaving in greater numbers. As you say, a complex issue, as a forum we'll get nowhere so long as it keeps getting dragged back to standing on cliffs at Dover "none shall pass! Oh, they just did"