Making the news today....

[Mark J]

8 hours ago, Johnsond said:

Jeremy Corbyn confirms talks about forming new party with Zarah Sultana

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Corbyn says ‘discussions are ongoing’ after MP’s surprise announcement, and is understood...

A new home for you Mark. 

I would prefer a Green/"As yet unnamed left-wing party" coalition, as opposed to Reform/Tory coalition. Corbyn hasn't got the clems for a leadership role, he'd make a canny Foreign Secretary or even Home Secretary, IMHO. Green Party suits me politically at this time.

We'll see how things pan out.

[AHPP]

Politics isn't fantasy football. You don't have to choose the exact angle from which you'd like to be kicked in the bollocks. A perfectly viable form of politics is an absence of politics.

 

 

[Mark J]

Google caught spying on you:
 

Google Ordered to Pay $314M for Misusing Android Users' Cellular Data Without Permission

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Google faces $314M fine for misusing Android users’ cellular data while devices are idle.

 

[Mark J]

7 minutes ago, AHPP said:

Politics isn't fantasy football. You don't have to choose the exact angle from which you'd like to be kicked in the bollocks. A perfectly viable form of politics is an absence of politics.

 

 

Perhaps no politics is a workable endgame, but I think that the current trajectory society is on isn't one which will ever accomodate that situation. 

[Mark J]

@Johnsond

Should Reform win an election, how long do you think it will be before they move to privatise the NHS and implement an insurance based health care system?
 

Edited July 4 by Mark J

[Johnsond]

14 minutes ago, Mark J said:

@Johnsond

Should Reform win an election, how long do you think it will be before they move to privatise the NHS and implement an insurance based health care system?
 

I’ve no idea. But I do know the NHS and Care system is failing those whom have put in all their working lives. Me personally I’ve recently had to pay privately for a minor surgery or wait 12-18 months on the NHS, I’d easily opt out and pay insurance for me and my family. Not everyone has that option I know but whilst it’s being used to care for tens of thousands of illegals and those who have never put a penny into it I’ll probably keep those views. I can easily see a basic and plus type service set up coming in at some point as the current system is just not sustainable or fair. 

[tree-fancier123]

It's not at all easy to work out how much each working person puts in to the NHS - we can estimate our NI over a working life, but subtracting out for the state pension how to do that?

It's so complex I'm resigned to just having whatever is offered, maybe I'll go private for small stuff like hernia ops and already forced to for denstist. I'd still rather live here than in US. There is waste in NHS and people getting it all for no input, but in America there are so many profiteers, medical excellence yes, but profiteers at every step of the way. One customer was over there, caught a chest infection, on oxygen for a bit £20000, had to haggle with his travel insurance for reimbursment. £20k for a bottle of O2 and some antibiotics. The hospital food must have been lobster, chablis, fillet steak 

[Mark J]

29 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

I’ve no idea. But I do know the NHS and Care system is failing those whom have put in all their working lives. Me personally I’ve recently had to pay privately for a minor surgery or wait 12-18 months on the NHS, I’d easily opt out and pay insurance for me and my family. Not everyone has that option I know but whilst it’s being used to care for tens of thousands of illegals and those who have never put a penny into it I’ll probably keep those views. I can easily see a basic and plus type service set up coming in at some point as the current system is just not sustainable or fair. 

You're lucky you can afford private healthcare. 

Assuming the illegals issue is resovled by Farage, as he seeks to do, how long then do you think it will be until Reform privatise the NHS?

Farage is on record as saying that he favours an insurance based system for everyone, not just those in well paid jobs. 



 

Edited July 4 by Mark J

[Johnsond]

4 minutes ago, Mark J said:

You're lucky you can afford private healthcare

It’s not luck Mark it’s hard graft, sacrifice and perseverance 🤷‍♂️luck plays zero part in it. I don’t have private health care. In this case I had  a choice and took it, NHS consultant doing 1 day a week private stuff in an NHS facility 🤷‍♂️

Edited July 4 by Johnsond

[Johnsond]

7 minutes ago, Mark J said:

How long then do you think it will be until Reform privatise the NHS

I’ve already said “ no idea “ it’s a purely hypothetical question at this point anyway.