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On 28/03/2024 at 08:40, Squaredy said:

So, just to be clear, this happened on school premises?

Sorry - have been away working on Coll for a couple of days

 

Yes, it happened on school premises - in full view of one of the staff rooms.

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11 hours ago, waterbuoy said:

Sorry - have been away working on Coll for a couple of days

 

Yes, it happened on school premises - in full view of one of the staff rooms.

So the implicit message from the school to the children is that bad behaviour will go unpunished.  The children can literally do what they like, and unless the police get involved there are no consequences.

 

All I can say is thank goodness my kids are not in that school.

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Correct on all counts - the school used to have an onsite police liaison officer pre-covid but that is no longer the case due to cutbacks.  It is probably worse than you state as there is a perception amongst the 'normal' children that those who misbehave then get special attention, to the detriment of everyone else.

 

This makes the top headline in the 'Scottish News' section of the BBC website this morning - again, plenty of discussion on dangers to teachers, but nothing about the children who may also be on the receiving end:

 

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

The NASUWT says the Scottish government is four years late in providing "concrete guidance" for teachers.

 

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17 minutes ago, waterbuoy said:

Correct on all counts - the school used to have an onsite police liaison officer pre-covid but that is no longer the case due to cutbacks.  It is probably worse than you state as there is a perception amongst the 'normal' children that those who misbehave then get special attention, to the detriment of everyone else.

 

This makes the top headline in the 'Scottish News' section of the BBC website this morning - again, plenty of discussion on dangers to teachers, but nothing about the children who may also be on the receiving end:

 

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

The NASUWT says the Scottish government is four years late in providing "concrete guidance" for teachers.

 

I guess most parents have very little idea of just how bad things have become.  No wonder home schooling and independent school numbers have gone up.

 

I would suggest it isn’t even that difficult to solve the problem either.  Just give each school the ultimate ability to exclude a pupil if they feel it necessary.  It must be soul destroying to kick out an unruly child only to find them re-instated by the local authority the following week.

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Yup - I had no idea just how bad things are until I was asked to join the Parent Council. 

 

Whilst our situation isn't helped by a very self-serving and weak new headmaster who has effectively sidelined the former leadership tem, it is the overbearing desire to protect the 'rights' of the minority - in this case the trouble makers who do not want to be at school - which is undemining the moral of staff and pupils alike.

 

In the cae I described the unruly child was not actually suspended by the school - the police took her away for interview, she took a day off (I am told) and was then welcomed back into the school - to the surpsie (and dismay) of many.

 

I have been told (but don't know for certain) that the new head teacher sent his children to private school, which if true kind of says it all really.

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4 hours ago, waterbuoy said:

Yup - I had no idea just how bad things are until I was asked to join the Parent Council. 

 

Whilst our situation isn't helped by a very self-serving and weak new headmaster who has effectively sidelined the former leadership tem, it is the overbearing desire to protect the 'rights' of the minority - in this case the trouble makers who do not want to be at school - which is undemining the moral of staff and pupils alike.

 

In the cae I described the unruly child was not actually suspended by the school - the police took her away for interview, she took a day off (I am told) and was then welcomed back into the school - to the surpsie (and dismay) of many.

 

I have been told (but don't know for certain) that the new head teacher sent his children to private school, which if true kind of says it all really.

And is this a school run by the LEA or is it an academy school?  I think it is about time local councils stopped trying to run schools.  But I don’t know if academies are any better.

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Tazer the little f.ukkers and take away their phones.

This will deter them and you never know might even get them to learn something.

They also need to bleddy write with a pen not type on a tablet.

It's fast downhill at the moment with children's education 

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1 hour ago, Squaredy said:

And is this a school run by the LEA or is it an academy school?  I think it is about time local councils stopped trying to run schools.  But I don’t know if academies are any better.

It is a local authority school - which is part of the problem.  They appointed a 'yes man' as the head teacher and he is more concerned with not upsetting the Authority than he seems to be about the welfare of the children.

 

By way of another example, it is the only school in the whole LA area where members of the public are allowed to access and use the school gym and changing rooms during the school day.  We (ie parents and the PC) are currently taking this to the highest level, not least because one of us was directly affected by Dunblane.  However, both HT and the Local Authority think it is fine.......

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