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Mark Woolhouse supported the use of lockdowns at the time of the pandemic

the incredibly expensive covid inquiry seems to be ticking along wasting millions as did the whole farce, somewhat overshadowed by current world events. Probably much to the relief of many seeing as the picture it’s painting is making those that were more sceptical ( and ridiculed ) at the time of all the madness seem rather a sensible bunch after all. 

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On 16/10/2023 at 10:01, Big J said:

 

And that is fundamentally the root of the situation in the middle east. The Israelis cannot be surprised that Hamas acted without humanity (and I absolutely condemn Hamas' actions) when the Israelis have been systematically stripping the Palestinians of that very humanity for 75 years.

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Experts say they have found evidence of decapitation, rape and people being burned alive.

Unfortunately J I think the Hamas leadership knew fine well the reaction would be a strong one. Wether or not they banked on total eradication is another question. Quite frankly if I were an Israeli be it civilian or a reservist I’d want nothing less and who can blame them. 

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Experts say they have found evidence of decapitation, rape and people being burned alive.

Unfortunately J I think the Hamas leadership knew fine well the reaction would be a strong one. Wether or not they banked on total eradication is another question. Quite frankly if I were an Israeli be it civilian or a reservist I’d want nothing less and who can blame them. 


Rumours abound that the IDF were well aware of planned incursions by Hamas and did nothing. It's unlikely we'll ever find out the truth.

What I do think is that anyone defending or justifying the murder of children and innocent adult civilians on either side of Israel's apartheid wall wants their sick heads read.

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8 minutes ago, Mark J said:


Rumours abound that the IDF were well aware of planned incursions by Hamas and did nothing. It's unlikely we'll ever find out the truth.

What I do think is that anyone defending or justifying the murder of children and innocent adult civilians on either side of Israel's apartheid wall wants their sick heads read.

Too late for citizen smith type politics now Mark. I’d say Hamas and Gaza will cease to exist shortly 🤷‍♂️sadly it’s the innocents as always who will suffer from both sides. 
 

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24 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Too late for citizen smith type politics now Mark. I’d say Hamas and Gaza will cease to exist shortly 🤷‍♂️sadly it’s the innocents as always who will suffer from both sides. 
 

Are you saying you condone killing of children on either side? That's a lot of people to die in order to level Gaza. 

No 'Citizen Smith' outrage here, I've been to Palestine and seen how things were. It's a lousy state of affairs. 

@Mike Hill do you reckon that Hamas blew the hospital up with stray missiles as they are now reporting or do you reckon the Israelis did it as first reported?

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23 minutes ago, Steve Bullman said:

Bit of a leap mate

Not really. The way I see it is you're either against killing bairns or for killing bairns, it doesn't matter what colour skin they have or where they're from. My thoughts are that the Israeli response to Hamas' atrocities is overkill in every sense of the word and that we should be vocal in our opposition to it - by saying nothing you are pretty much condoning the levelling of Gaza and all that goes with it. If the Israeli Zionist regime is hell bent on destroying Gaza they should just nuke the place instead of prolonging the suffering of millions - they won't do that though as it would affect their metrics and irradiate the land for future 'settlers'.


 

 

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1 hour ago, Steve Bullman said:

Bit of a leap mate

@Johnsond Apologies if the question was inappropriate, I think that adding a 'shrugging shoulders' emoji conveys a sense of defeatism, which may have 'triggered' me. 

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1 hour ago, Mark J said:

No 'Citizen Smith' outrage here, I've been to Palestine and seen how things were. It's a lousy state of affairs.

 

You're probably more qualified to comment than a lot of us, depends on the news source, the reporters or the daily news that you read depends on whose partisan views of this conflict you believe. I don't think we are getting fed an even balance from both sides (The BBC might be - they are certainly trying hard to be seen to be unbiased here).

 

For the hospital - if you take it that there are underground facilities and that Israel has a substation arsenal at it's disposal, any attack on there would be against these underground facilities I think... and yet the pictures and videos don't show it having been hit with anything more powerful than a firework. My view is that the missile wasn't targeted at it, or that someone has been playing the politics of war on their own side (Hamas or one of the other factions there)

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