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...For a long ascent with base tie off - forget the knee ascender just now....

 

No offense intended, but he already has a HAAS which is going to be much more energy efficient.

 

Steve, and all, however you clip in your advancing tether, have it so the pulley is working. Even if it is just a small amount for support it will make a noticeable difference if the pulley is helping you to remain upright and doing some of the work for your arms.

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he has a HAAS which is going to be much more energy efficient.

 

energy efficient yes.....but the HAAS, foot ascender and wrench set up can feel a bit frustrating at first when you switch from years of climbing on DdRT. The addition of the hand ascender is helpful if you're not used to climbing a static line hand over hand with the HAAS, wrench, foot ascender method or even just a wrench and foot ascender. It's also easy to clip the hand ascender into the back of your harness when not in use. The pic shown was suggested as a simple ascent method in the early stages of switching to SRT, then add in the HAAS later and remove the hand ascender altogether if you want.

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That's pretty much what I did tim , I did find a single hand ascender quite helpful at first to pull me around the tree as well as you can't body thrust .. The double hand is pretty quick as well and more ergonomic on long ascents but a lot more tiring than a haas

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Those are all good points, Scotspine 1. If things are not working for Steve for the reasons you stated it is definitely worth a try. The only thing I have against the use of hand ascenders is that they can propagate the continued over use and dependency of arm power in ascending moves.

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