Poor tree work in conservation area

[worden84]

My boss is always reporting poor work carried out on TPO trees never makes a difference as its council approved contractors doing it in are area.I feel things need to change and councils should do more to stop it. This poor work is driving prices down for everyone.

[Gray git]

Err no.

 

The LA have the option to put a TPO on any tree within the CE upon notice of intended tree works, if they chose not to apply a TPO, they have little if any control over who or how the work is carried out.

 

I'm not aware of any prosecutions for poor quality work

 

Might start applying to do very slight reductions or a 5% thin as almost guaranteed to get passed then sent the apprentice to hack on in that case nd cut of everything that looks like a branch like the customer wanted to get more light instead of wasting valuable time educating them and doing a good job for all involved.

[worden84]

What puzzles me a little about this whole thred having scand over it all again is that many people who have contributed care about doing a good job, presenting a professional image and trying to educate the public and in doing so get arb the recognition as a skilled profession that it deserves and in doing that hopefully get the public more willing to pay what we would realy like them to. But and it's a big but when someone is doing the opposite and presenting out industry badly for whatever reason it's the old ' not my problem ' attitude that comes out which is a real shame.

Just my opinion so let the abuse begin.

 

 

Totally agree. So much more needs to be done to improve work standards.

[Gray git]

Totally agree. So much more needs to be done to improve work standards.

 

Standards and perception as a whole which doesn't mean we all need to become aa approved contractor but presenting a professional image and trying to do things correctly (whatever that is is still open to interpretation)

[Shane]

Poor plumbing might manifest itself with leaking pipes, bent pipes, noisy central heating etc.

Poor plastering just looks crap, or sounds hollow soon after.

Poor car repairs show in break-downs and the like.

And so on far many other trades.

 

Poor tree work is fairly clear to arborists, but not necessarily obvious to the public and customers. Stubs left, adjacent bushes 'trimmmed' as a result of an 'ooops', infections resulting from pruning at the wrong time ?

 

I don't think the 'general public' will ever be as aware of arb standards as they are of other trades/professions.

 

Apart from 'dropping others in it' with Authorities who don't have the time (or budgets) to care what ya gonna do? Go knock on the person's door and tell them that the 'other' outfit did a rubbish job so use YOU next time?

That don't sound any more professional that knoocking to say the trees need trimming and you can do it.

 

I gues the AA could run a campaign, or maybe all treework should only be allowed by registered approved companies, with the death penalty for customers/cowboys who do not follow the law!

 

Death to everybody! - or maybe we all just keep on doing a brilliant job and as our reputations and customer base grows, we keep busy and do the best we can.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Poor plumbing might manifest itself with leaking pipes, bent pipes, noisy central heating etc.

Poor plastering just looks crap, or sounds hollow soon after.

Poor car repairs show in break-downs and the like.

And so on far many other trades.

 

Poor tree work is fairly clear to arborists, but not necessarily obvious to the public and customers. Stubs left, adjacent bushes 'trimmmed' as a result of an 'ooops', infections resulting from pruning at the wrong time ?

 

I don't think the 'general public' will ever be as aware of arb standards as they are of other trades/professions.

 

Apart from 'dropping others in it' with Authorities who don't have the time (or budgets) to care what ya gonna do? Go knock on the person's door and tell them that the 'other' outfit did a rubbish job so use YOU next time?

That don't sound any more professional that knoocking to say the trees need trimming and you can do it.

 

I gues the AA could run a campaign, or maybe all treework should only be allowed by registered approved companies, with the death penalty for customers/cowboys who do not follow the law!

 

Death to everybody! - or maybe we all just keep on doing a brilliant job and as our reputations and customer base grows, we keep busy and do the best we can.

 

 

Ask anybody outside of the arb trade what the AA is and they'll think your car has broken down... Or that you're after a beer!

[Johny Walker]

Pictures say it all.

 

cracking job there jon, stick @it & 1,day youl get there

[Couldyajust]

No harm in that, consensus is hard to find on a trade forum.

 

We all do stuff that taken in isolation, without people having reference to what the client demanded, and photographed and put on the internet would look less than ideal.

Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

 

Yesterday (on my own, without any PPE) I dropped one trunk of a multi stemmed willow which became hung up in another tree I then proceeded to pack up the saw & went home leaving it like that. Anyone who saw that would definitely think I bodged the job & disappeared in a hurry. If that was posted on here I would be slated, called a cowboy etc...

 

The reality is I was only there to pick up a load of logs from a previous job & spotted the root plate lifting seriously in the 50mph gusts so mentioned it to client as it had the potential to do about 20k of damage if it dropped on to the static caravan it was leaning over & we were forecast 90mph gusts through the night. I was asked to do what I can (bearing in mind I had minimal kit with me & it was rapidly getting dark) so I dropped the heaviest trunk that leaned in the direction of the caravan against the lean intentionally getting it hung up to wedge everything in place. Didn't get it quite where I wanted it due to lack of wedges or winch to guide the fall & fighting against the wind but what I did stabilised the tree & I will be going back to deal with it properly in a couple of days as soon as I can fit it in.

[Gray git]

cracking job there jon, stick @it & 1,day youl get there

 

Cheers johny kind words indeed 😜Do you think more should have been taken off?

Like everything that didn't look like a stump!

[5 shires]

What puzzles me a little about this whole thred having scand over it all again is that many people who have contributed care about doing a good job, presenting a professional image and trying to educate the public and in doing so get arb the recognition as a skilled profession that it deserves and in doing that hopefully get the public more willing to pay what we would realy like them to. But and it's a big but when someone is doing the opposite and presenting out industry badly for whatever reason it's the old ' not my problem ' attitude that comes out which is a real shame.

Just my opinion so let the abuse begin.

 

There will be no abuse coming John....I'am positive that everyone who has posted on this thread cares greatly about the well being and health of all trees, after all that is part of the reason we all do this job.....it's not just about the money.

 

I just think it's a case of our own personality....were some of us get wound up about things others are laid back and just let it roll....it's not a case of not caring it's just how differently we are all made....and carrataristics we are born with.