Poor tree work in conservation area

[felixthelogchopper]

And using a pole saw isn't against the law either, i have had very good contract climbers (and fellow arbtalkers) ask to send up the gypsy stick, to get the job done easier and safer and with cuts to a good standard.

 

Makes me chuckle every time.

[18 stoner]

Not sure.Do you think he might have had one of those "Swedish side strops" from back in the day? You know the ones that were just a bit of Cable with a Pussik on it?

 

 

 

Not seen one of those for years.

 

 

 

And topping down strops,three strand with a eye in it.

 

 

Too right! A mate of mine put some old pics up on FB recently with that huge old topping down kit. Was pre helmet days and the ropes were huge but somehow the job still got done!

 

[Thesnarlingbadger]

It does beg the question where do we draw the line. I have done some shoddy reductions in my time (well it's because of the 'stupid bloody tree'). How bad is too bad?

We live in a world where people have limitations and need to learn how to do a decent reduction (that means practice). So as the old saying goes got to brake a few eggs to make an omelette.

People criticise way to easily and sometimes it's best to give a little slack. Ok spiking up a birch to reduce it is going to far in my opinion but then maybe the customers said 'would you mind just really messing my tree up for me? Because I love crap looking trees.

Who knows.

[Mull]

You cant win Starscream on here , you care and that all that matters , imagine you posted a pic in Todays job thread of yourself reducing a tree with spikes .....you would of got slaughtered.

 

 

 

Ste

 

 

^^thats the nail on the head post for me so far!

[Gray git]

Am I allowed to post a picture of a reduction with spikes I spotted when out pricing some council work yesterday?

No name or shame just picture of tree in con are.

[Starscream]

50 is an old dog???😳😳😳

Cheeky young whipper snapper😠😠

 

No not at all! just a figure of speech to illustrate a point! My boss is 55 and climbs better than most.

[Mull]

Am I allowed to post a picture of a reduction with spikes I spotted when out pricing some council work yesterday?

No name or shame just picture of tree in con are.

 

 

Yes..

[Mull]

No not at all! just a figure of speech to illustrate a point! My boss is 55 and climbs better than most.

 

 

Haha, cool, but can you teach your boss any new tricks?

[Gray git]

Pictures say it all.

[daltontrees]

This thread is surely the saddest low-point of Arbtalk of the year, and it's still january.

 

Now I'm a purist and although I'm not a tree-hugger I would personally shoot anyone spiking a Birch in January, it will bleed and bleed until April, then suffer for another couple of years. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows this, and no-one who gives the slightest damn about trees or their personal professional reputation or about getting prosecuted would do it. We need trees, we don't need cowboys, an important difference. It's only a tree but we're only all in this world together and we all know that we can't trust politicians to care about anything but their own personal short-term prestige. How could Councils possibly police conservation areas, when resources are determined not by what needs to be done but by what is made available by politicians competing for popularity that is largely judged by how cheaply they can run the country?

 

Whether you should grass someone else up for doing it is maybe a sightly different matter. I'd say it's up to the conscience of the OP. If he listens to opinions of people on Arbtalk he is likely to wonder whether anyone in modern society cares about anything or anyone but themselves, and will probably drift towards that selfish indifferent attitude himself, as society is collectively doing.

 

OK Steve Bulman it's your website and just because you got an award for outstanding contribution to arboriculture doesn't mean you're not allowed to state a personal opinion here on Arbtalk. But there was something about your initial indifference, and how it spurred on the dont-give-a-fig brigade who personify the way that our industry again and again cons society and is almost inseperable from the cowboys that it sometimes berates and sometimes praises, that really gets me down this evening.

 

But in the morning I'll just get on with doing things properly for people who either care or trust me to care. It'll all make for a tiresome endless discussion in the treeless hell that we're all going to end up in together anyway.

 

Meantime I say grass the tossers up, make a diference, give a damn about someone other than yourself. That's my opinion and I'll take it to hell and back.