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instead of blaming eror 1515, try blaming the idiots that sell all the woodburners with the recomendations" you've got to burn only seasoned hardwoods", and start and convince folk that what they really need is seasoned TREEWOOD, we might actually have some decent timber left in this country then, and a market for all the pine, spruce, and larch thats ending up going to biomass, or being left to rot roadside

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instead of blaming eror 1515, try blaming the idiots that sell all the woodburners with the recomendations" you've got to burn only seasoned hardwoods", and start and convince folk that what they really need is seasoned TREEWOOD, we might actually have some decent timber left in this country then, and a market for all the pine, spruce, and larch thats ending up going to biomass, or being left to rot roadside

 

Who's blaming error1515?

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, try blaming the idiots that sell all the woodburners with the recomendations" you've got to burn only seasoned hardwoods", and start and convince folk that what they really need is seasoned TREEWOOD, we might actually have some decent timber left in this country then, and a market for all the pine, spruce, and larch thats ending up going to biomass, or being left to rot roadside

 

Agreed

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That's what needs to change, someone needs to promote softwood as a firewood, the heat output is higher than some 'hardwood' just the public need convincing!

 

On a another note, wouldn't mind seeing a picture of this pine bath?

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instead of blaming eror 1515, try blaming the idiots that sell all the woodburners with the recomendations" you've got to burn only seasoned hardwoods", and start and convince folk that what they really need is seasoned TREEWOOD, we might actually have some decent timber left in this country then, and a market for all the pine, spruce, and larch thats ending up going to biomass, or being left to rot roadside

 

Agreed entirely.

 

In addition to which, they need to start looking after their own drying. Customers should order their logs a year in advance and then they can be assured that they are dry when it comes to burning them. I appreciate some people don't have the space, but most do. Give than most people only burn 5-8 cube in a winter, it would only require 2x4m of storage 2m high (divided into bays) to do 2-3 winters. The issue is that customers want dry firewood at the wettest time of year, coupled with tricky conditions for deliveries and lack of daylight.

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Agreed entirely.

 

In addition to which, they need to start looking after their own drying. Customers should order their logs a year in advance and then they can be assured that they are dry when it comes to burning them. I appreciate some people don't have the space, but most do. Give than most people only burn 5-8 cube in a winter, it would only require 2x4m of storage 2m high (divided into bays) to do 2-3 winters. The issue is that customers want dry firewood at the wettest time of year, coupled with tricky conditions for deliveries and lack of daylight.

 

Agreed and agreed.

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Agreed entirely.

 

In addition to which, they need to start looking after their own drying. Customers should order their logs a year in advance and then they can be assured that they are dry when it comes to burning them. I appreciate some people don't have the space, but most do. Give than most people only burn 5-8 cube in a winter, it would only require 2x4m of storage 2m high (divided into bays) to do 2-3 winters. The issue is that customers want dry firewood at the wettest time of year, coupled with tricky conditions for deliveries and lack of daylight.

 

agree 100%:thumbup:

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Don't entirely agree ... As fire wood suppliers we should be stock piling our supplies and storing them so it is suitable to sell at the wettest darkest time of year....if you can't do that the selling of wood not suitable to burn should be labelled as such. Totally agree about soft wood and local supplied timber though.

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I'm a buyer of firewood.

 

I'm not trying to pick an argument, but when you professional firewood sellers give your relative prices for softwood/ hardwood the hardwood always looks better value....

 

The calorific value of wood is fairly constant at circa 5300 kWh per dry ton. However the density of beech is about 50% to 100% more than spruce... A builders bag of spruce would really have to be half the price of a builders bag of beech before it became better value...

 

Like others here I would love if we burnt more spruce.

 

Wood Densities

 

http://www.forestry.gov.uk/pdf/FC-BEC-InfoSheet-Wood-as-Fuel-TechSupp.pdf/$FILE/FC-BEC-InfoSheet-Wood-as-Fuel-TechSupp.pdf

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