Fuel cans-how much.

[richy_B]

Fill the cans whilst still in the back. Away from prying eyes.

[timbernut]

It's down to the vendors policy which generally follows what the local fire service h & s advisor recommends, my local bp allow me to fill 5 Jerry cans because the fuel is in separate place from cab (chip box/buck) and I often fill up 2 or 3 combi cans at the same time. I have been stopped from filling up at all the big supermarkets in the past except in Scotland where i filled 10 cans no questions asked as long as proper fuel containers. From memory t hink you can carry over 240lt legally but you can't store more than 20 or 40 within 10m of residential buildings, unless on a boat

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

I'm surprised there appears to be such a willingness to carry excessive amounts of fuel.

 

I know we sometimes need it for a job but does that justify carrying excessive amounts in potentially unsuitable containers possibly inside vehicles?

 

For a business sector that seems to bend itself out of shape over so many rules & regs it seems at odds that carrying petrol appears so care free?

 

There is guidance, like so many other considerations, ignoring the guidance is all ok until the excrement hits the air conditioning - then your insurance is in the hills and you stand before the beak - I'm can't understand why it seems to not carry the same sort of stigma on the forum as, for example, steel to steel crab, home made trailer, lack of appropriate training, etc etc.....?

[Stubby]

I'm surprised there appears to be such a willingness to carry excessive amounts of fuel.

 

I know we sometimes need it for a job but does that justify carrying excessive amounts in potentially unsuitable containers possibly inside vehicles?

 

 

 

 

Don't think any one is using unsuitable containers or excessive amounts . Its just the amount allowed seems to vary among different vendors . .

Edited December 3, 2015 by Stubby

[Woodworks]

Processor scoffs it hence the 20 litre can. Might look into 2x10L ones but can't see how it's much safer.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

I'm surprised there appears to be such a willingness to carry excessive amounts of fuel.

 

I know we sometimes need it for a job but does that justify carrying excessive amounts in potentially unsuitable containers possibly inside vehicles?

 

 

 

 

Don't think any one is using unsuitable containers or excessive amounts . Its just the amount allowed seems to vary among different vendors . .

 

Processor scoffs it hence the 20 litre can. Might look into 2x10L ones but can't see how it's much safer.

 

I'm not sure it's not so much the vendors place to dictate how much should be carried so far as I can tell from what I've read Stubby. If I understand it correctly - no guarantee of that of course - it's 2x plastic 5l cans or 1x metal 10l.

 

It's not necessarily the vendor that'll get crapped on if the vehicle carrying the fuel gets in trouble but the driver.

 

Woody, I think, and I'm only guessing, that a 10l metal can, rather than a 20l metal can is less likely to have ullage where vapour can accumulate??

 

All we can do is try our best I guess, it's certainly not clear so far as I can make out. I carry it on the roof of the 110 or in a holder in the trailer. It's the best compromise and attempt at 'doing the right thing' I can find.

[timbernut]

I do not want to go to the petrol station more than once a week if I can help it as I live and (mostly) work in rural locations, I don't drive round all week with all the fuel on board either! I looked into this in some detail a while back as was felling on west coast with 6 hand cutters an hour from nearest petrol station, we were using well over 30 lt a day and as I said above no problem from retailers (or traffic cops who pulled me on another occasion). As long as it's secured and you have relevant hazard stickers on board what's the problem?

[GardenKit]

Another reason I use Aspen;)

Classic!

 

We are missing speaking to you as often now you are using the 200l drums Paul, hope its going well for you.

[Couldyajust]

What is a jerry can? A guide on how to legally store petrol - BBC Newsbeat

 

Not sure how the bbc get away with publishing something that inaccurate as a factual article.

 

Accurate information with all relevant links to info to back it up here:

Are Jerry Cans legal? What is the law on fuel cans? | Wavian Jerry Cans

 

Basic summary is:

Up to a maximum of 60 litres of fuel can be transported in (any size) appropriate fuel cans in a single vehicle.

Up to 30 litres can be stored on domestic premises without questions or up to 275 litres subject to permission being obtained from the Petroleum Enforcement Agency, appropriate storage etc....

Any amount can be stored on buisness premises as long as it is in appropriate containers & a DSEAR risk assessment is completed. Yes Aspen users should be doing this too.

 

How much the garage is prepared to sell you is entirely at their discretion.

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

Not sure how the bbc get away with publishing something that inaccurate as a factual article.

 

 

 

Accurate information with all relevant links to info to back it up here:

 

Are Jerry Cans legal? What is the law on fuel cans? | Wavian Jerry Cans

 

 

 

Basic summary is:

 

Up to a maximum of 60 litres of fuel can be transported in (any size) appropriate fuel cans in a single vehicle.

 

Up to 30 litres can be stored on domestic premises without questions or up to 275 litres subject to permission being obtained from the Petroleum Enforcement Agency, appropriate storage etc....

 

Any amount can be stored on buisness premises as long as it is in appropriate containers & a DSEAR risk assessment is completed. Yes Aspen users should be doing this too.

 

 

 

How much the garage is prepared to sell you is entirely at their discretion.

 

 

Oh bugger! Just when I thought I understood it enough to get by safely! 😳

 

Maybe I naively thought the BBC would have a reasonably well informed and unbiased research team. I'm sure Wavian, as a retailer of fuel storage solutions, would, wouldn't they?

 

I just don't know who to believe anymore so I'm sticking to empty pop bottles! At least it's compliant with the reduce, reuse, recycle mantra 😳