Labour shortages

[Kveldssanger]

£25k here is nothing. Heck, £30k is nothing.

[treequip]

No but just can't be arsed with folk that use 20 flash words when 6 everyday ones will do the same job, why try talking like a barrister when you a manual worker?

 

Quite right of you, but the subject was proper grammar rather than the number of words used.

[Billy]

I agree with the replies, although that sort of money isn't going to allow a mega lifestyle it is what careers advice etc says our employees should earn and is online with what prices can stand. So should be the basis for current expectations, if people want more, other skills/ industries may be better suited to their aspirations.

[aspenarb]

I dont believe in a generic rate for labour or skills, how can a workshy kid that spends all day hiding behind a bush while he texts his mates be of the same value as someone who gets stuck in and canes it. We had a long line of tall conifers at the back of a site and decided to strip them out,chip all the arisings and fell the sticks later. There was dozens of them, one climber started one end another climber the other. These were the same basic tree but one climber was getting through three or four of these trees to the other climbers one.

 

Bob

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

I dont believe in a generic rate for labour or skills, how can a workshy kid that spends all day hiding behind a bush while he texts his mates be of the same value as someone who gets stuck in and canes it. We had a long line of tall conifers at the back of a site and decided to strip them out,chip all the arisings and fell the sticks later. There was dozens of them, one climber started one end another climber the other. These were the same basic tree but one climber was getting through three or four of these trees to the other climbers one.

 

 

 

Bob

 

 

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You take out relevant to what you put in. Makes absolute sense.

[eggsarascal]

I agree with the replies, although that sort of money isn't going to allow a mega lifestyle it is what careers advice etc says our employees should earn and is online with what prices can stand. So should be the basis for current expectations, if people want more, other skills/ industries may be better suited to their aspirations.

 

My fag packet maths brings your rate in at ABOUT £10-£12.50/ hour for skilled labour, good luck.

[Billy]

I dont believe in a generic rate for labour or skills, how can a workshy kid that spends all day hiding behind a bush while he texts his mates be of the same value as someone who gets stuck in and canes it. We had a long line of tall conifers at the back of a site and decided to strip them out,chip all the arisings and fell the sticks later. There was dozens of them, one climber started one end another climber the other. These were the same basic tree but one climber was getting through three or four of these trees to the other climbers one.

 

 

 

Bob

 

 

Absolutely agree Bob.

[Billy]

My fag packet maths brings your rate in at ABOUT £10-£12.50/ hour for skilled labour, good luck.

 

 

What sort of rate would you suggest paying eggs? Good contract climbers are in the £15-£20 an hour region and they typically come with several saws, hundreds of meters of rope and bags of pulleys, friction devices and other Gadgets, and vast skill and experience and they are not similar to most workers.

[Richard 1234]

Companies can only pay at the rate the market dictates.

If top money for a day's work is £500 (example) then if you have a climber and the boss and maybe someone dragging brash. That's 3 wages and running costs. Where can you get profit from that if you are paying people £20 an hour. Which I would consider to be a good wage for paye. I think that's why people are paying £10-£15 an hour.

No point in the stress of running the business if your only covering costs!

[eggsarascal]

What sort of rate would you suggest paying eggs? Good contract climbers are in the £15-£20 an hour region and they typically come with several saws, hundreds of meters of rope and bags of pulleys, friction devices and other Gadgets, and vast skill and experience and they are not similar to most workers.

 

I didn't answer this until today as I wanted to confirm with my Nephew what he told me a few months ago.

 

He's a PAYE Upholsterer (hardly as dangerous as being up a tree with a saw, and nowhere near as much stress on the body) in his mid twentys with five years experience, he's on £16/hour, with six weeks, yes six, paid holidays per year, admittedly he is told when to take 4 weeks of those holidays, 2 week Christmas shut-down, 2 weeks summer shut-down, with 10 days floating holidays to take when he chooses. This isn't down south money, he lives and works in the North West.

 

Can you see why I think £10/£12.50 hour is poor in comparison?