Mainstream media, modern imperialism and the violence caused.

[matelot]

Having had to work there on and off for 8 years I can tell you now that Israel is anything but a "beacon for democracy and respect". It might be if your jewish.

 

IMO it is as bad, if not worse than South Africa was during apartheid, the western media generally works in its favor when it should be calling for strong sanctions like it did with SA. Double standards abound. Go and work there for a period, get first hand experience, then make an informed judgement.

 

And how are minorities treated in neighbouring countries? I bet they're treated a lot worse than Muslims in Israel?

 

No one is saying Israel is perfect, but a lot of the neighbouring countries seem like hell on earth....

[GreenGui]

Tell us more about how bad it is we may have more understanding then

 

No Mr mortimer I am not going to do that. Why? Because it is a trap.

 

What ever I write about my 8 years of visits will simply be picked apart and poo poo'ed because the biggest influence on everyones life is the media. What ever I say, regardless of being first hand experience will be laughed off at best, and at worst I will be accused of anti-semitism, it's a standard formula and I am not so naive to put my self in that position. However I am equally not going to participate in a forum and read things that are totally opposite to my real world experience and not comment if the thread is about that subject.

[matelot]

 

What ever I write about my 8 years of visits will simply be picked apart and poo poo'ed because the biggest influence on everyones life is the media. What ever I say, regardless of being first hand experience will be laughed off at best, and at worst I will be accused of anti-semitism, it's a standard formula and I am not so naive to put my self in that position. However I am equally not going to participate in a forum and read things that are totally opposite to my real world experience and not comment if the thread is about that subject.

 

"The biggest influence in everyone's life is the media"?

 

Really? It's not your parents? School? Mates? Life experiences? Kids?

 

If you think Israelis are a bunch of d1cks you should say why.

 

fyi I've met a lot of people that don't like Israelis.

[Mortimer Firewood]

No Mr mortimer I am not going to do that. Why? Because it is a trap.

 

What ever I write about my 8 years of visits will simply be picked apart and poo poo'ed because the biggest influence on everyones life is the media. What ever I say, regardless of being first hand experience will be laughed off at best, and at worst I will be accused of anti-semitism, it's a standard formula and I am not so naive to put my self in that position. However I am equally not going to participate in a forum and read things that are totally opposite to my real world experience and not comment if the thread is about that subject.

 

Why participate in this thread at all then.

 

Are you really that worried about people you have never met judging you.

 

If i see or believe something to be true ill post it with very little regard for what others think but lives black and white for me no agendas

[skyhuck]

"Morale of the men totally destroyed, by poo poo"

[Stubby]

"Morale of the men totally destroyed, by poo poo"

 

Never " poo poo " another mans " poo poo " Black Adder

[GreenGui]

Why participate in this thread at all then.

 

Are you really that worried about people you have never met judging you.

 

If i see or believe something to be true ill post it with very little regard for what others think but lives black and white for me no agendas

 

You miss the point, Surprise!! Its not about people judging me. I could not care less what people think of me. You have already judged me, that is clear, do I care? NO. I'm not going to be drawn into a situation where you either call me an anti-semite or infer it. I can see what you believe from your previous post history. There is no point engaging you directly, in any debate, because your mind is already made up. In summary, I do not believe you to be engaging in 'good faith'.

[Mortimer Firewood]

You miss the point, Surprise!! Its not about people judging me. I could not care less what people think of me. You have already judged me, that is clear, do I care? NO. I'm not going to be drawn into a situation where you either call me an anti-semite or infer it. I can see what you believe from your previous post history. There is no point engaging you directly, in any debate, because your mind is already made up. In summary, I do not believe you to be engaging in 'good faith'.

 

Ive not judged you i was guessing big difference i find your attitude a little off, very defensive. I don't know you and would not judge you until i had spent time in your company.

 

Lighten up i was trying to get you to share your experience to get a better understanding of the situation if you don't want to share thats fine.

Injoy the rest of your evening

[matelot]

You miss the point, Surprise!! Its not about people judging me. I could not care less what people think of me. You have already judged me, that is clear, do I care? NO. I'm not going to be drawn into a situation where you either call me an anti-semite or infer it. I can see what you believe from your previous post history. There is no point engaging you directly, in any debate, because your mind is already made up. In summary, I do not believe you to be engaging in 'good faith'.

 

How about the hundreds of people that will read your posts though? If your thoughts are good they might come round to your way of thinking?

[aiden]

totally agree with your opening post tommer