Stobarts not payin for wood chip

[TIMON]

yea......right,

 

 

 

you bring in fresh chip at 60% moisture.........they sell pellets at 5%, where has the water gone. and at what cost to whome.

 

 

Fair point.

 

I wouldn't like to pay the maintenance costs etc.. on that sort of equipment plus the rest of the expenses.

We have our work cut out just keeping on top of our kit.

Timon

[arboriculturist]

If tree surgeons are prepared to put in the effort to comply with the red tape they will have a very valuable product. Unfortunately current tree surgeon practice of dumping chip on a heap will not hack it. My attempt at compliant chip has meant recording on each IBC full of chip date when chipped. Source of chip,Volume of chip in M3. How many miles from the farm was the source. Moisture content on arrival. Then when its sold MC on Sale, Volume of sale, where its sold to, Delivery mileage.

Whether the information is sufficient to comply with my BSL registration I will only find out after we have been audited.

I hope the big boys will stick with large certified forests which will allow small fry like myself to carve a niche market.

 

Do you dry your chip to get the MC down using RHI, air dry Roundwood then chip or split bulk bought in chip?

[briquette_seller]

Fair point.

 

I wouldn't like to pay the maintenance costs etc.. on that sort of equipment plus the rest of the expenses.

We have our work cut out just keeping on top of our kit.

Timon

 

Drying isn't that expensive, about £9 a tonne using the right machine.

[Riggerbear]

You still got to load the stuff

Only reason we offered free tip was to get £3 ton so about £80 for 30 mins work with forklift which at most we can only charge out at £45 hour on farm working its nutts off in a muck heap etc

We try to get 3-5 loads in morning/day so good earner for loading

 

 

Can't you run in it to the biomass plants yourself nick with your lorry to cut out the middle man ?

[renewablejohn]

Do you dry your chip to get the MC down using RHI, air dry Roundwood then chip or split bulk bought in chip?

 

Still trying to get my head around the new rules and configure my systems accordingly. Used to dry round wood in solar kiln then chip to get low MC RHI approved chip. Now use Solar RHI to dry round wood to get low MC RHI approved woodchip If I can crack the paper trail then the arb waste chip we currently use for compost we will use Solar RHI to dry in LENZ type containers to produce low MC RHI approved woodchip.

[nick channer]

Not to Liverpool

We haven't got walking floor Bulkers either

Ours wouldn't hold 13 ton chip

[cornish wood burner]

Drying isn't that expensive, about £9 a tonne using the right machine.

 

We have just started to look at the possibility of a drier. What would you consider to be the right machine.

[briquette_seller]

We have just started to look at the possibility of a drier. What would you consider to be the right machine.

 

It depends really, what is the main purpose of drying the wood chip?

To reprocess into pellets or briquettes? Or simply to produce dry chip?

 

If you just want dry chip with an "average" moisture content, I would say a biomass boiler and a drying floor is the best.

 

If you want a constant moisture content, sub 15%, I would say a rotary drum drier was the best.

 

I run a rotary drum drier, to get down to 6% moisture, to produce briquettes. This gives me a consistent 6%, and this is what I need.

 

A drying floor will give you an average of say 20%, with the chip at the bottom being 15% and the stuff at the top being 25%, which is perfectly acceptable when selling dry chip.

[renewablejohn]

Not a great fan of drying floors due to contamination issues. Have looked at most systems and concluded a modified LENZ system would be our best solution.

[Ty Korrigan]

Its because people are giving them away for free...they don't need to pay anymore! Need to educate tree surgeons that their chip is actually worth something, stop giving it away!!

 

Our hardwood chip is sold for garden mulch at 15euros per m3 and I often deliver 10m3 in one hit (truck and trailer)

I have a permanent advert on the French version of Gumtree (Le Bon Coin)

 

Conifer chip goes to a local farmer who uses it as bedding and composts it after.

 

Local council here uses our excess hardwood chip on it's beds and borders.

 

Try these routes!

Regards Ty