is LOLER worth anything?

[Joe Newton]

Maybe someone can clarify this for me? It regards the subject of items being marked and identifiable.

 

I get it with ropes harnesses biners etc.

 

What about hitches? Sometimes I get through a hitch in a week, depending on what I'm doing. I make my own, rather than buy eye to eye hitches.

 

I'm certainly not going to bother marking a hitch with a serial number at that rate.

 

 

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[Tom D]

Loler is every 6 months, it's unlikely that a hitch will last that long. Just don't bother lolering hitch cord, every thing has 6 months Grace from the day it enters service.

 

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[Joe Newton]

Loler is every 6 months, it's unlikely that a hitch will last that long. Just don't bother lolering hitch cord, every thing has 6 months Grace from the day it enters service.

 

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Figured as much.

 

It's funny, my cs41 assessor told me LOLER was every 12 months...

 

 

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[Mat]

 

I am struggling to see the point in LOLER.

 

 

LOLER is a regulation.

 

Like many regulations it has an approved code of practice.

 

Here is the LOLER 'ACOP'....

 

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/l113.pdf

 

... what a treat.

 

If you have read it, how can you not see the point (surely it is just 'common sense')

[Mat]

 

Can anyone point me to an accident where kit failed??

 

 

well, strangely enough, here is 'an accident where kit failed'

 

http://arbtalk.co.uk/forum/climbers-talk/56708-zig-zag-failure.html

[bob]

Figured as much.

 

It's funny, my cs41 assessor told me LOLER was every 12 months...

 

 

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Ppe is 6 months

Non ppe like rigging is 12 months

[gensetsteve]

Admittedly I do loler but it is surprising how many times folk bring stuff and say I know this and that will fail

I truly have seen some horrors

Sometimes it's down to cash

Sometimes it's down to lack of knowledge.

If you were sending your stuff for loler most folk would take longer getting it ready to go than they would of spent checking it in the last yr.

And if you don't spend any time then that says it all

Why bother having mot on your car.

Why not keep your ropes 20 yrs and your harness even longer

 

How much roughly do you charge to check an endless 1 tonne 1 metre sling for lifting

[treequip]

Loler is every 6 months, it's unlikely that a hitch will last that long. Just don't bother lolering hitch cord, every thing has 6 months Grace from the day it enters service.

 

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If you don't identify the item and its date into service how will you know (in the event of an incident) prove its date into service?

 

You are also supposed to perform a weekly check and it would need to be identified for that.

 

All you need to make an identifier for a hitch chord it is a bit of fabric plaster and some shrink tube.

[Joe Newton]

Ppe is 6 months

Non ppe like rigging is 12 months

 

 

That's what I had always thought, but who am I to argue with an assessor (who may fail me for belligerence)?

 

 

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[bob]

How much roughly do you charge to check an endless 1 tonne 1 metre sling for lifting

 

 

Tbh I tend to charge per kit rather than per item

But it's a lot cheaper than replacing the item like some folk I know do.

1 bloke I know just bins all his lifting strops every yr and buys new

Luckily he was happy to give me his old ones