Trailer hiab project, advice please

[Ty Unnos]

I can't find anything that states what the nose weight on a ranger should be. Surely the nose weight changes depending how you load the rest of the trailer?

 

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http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/media/6678669/noseweights-mo.pdf

[muttley9050]

OK thanks, so it seems like I should start a gain and mount the crane on the bed. But how far down the bed do I need to go before it actually alters the nose weight that much.?

 

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[treequip]

OK thanks, so it seems like I should start a gain and mount the crane on the bed. But how far down the bed do I need to go before it actually alters the nose weight that much.?

 

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You can check the nose weight with a stick under the ball head resting on bathroom scales

[muttley9050]

I'll check the nose weight tomorrow and see what it's sitting at. My guess is 300kg. Not sure I really want to mount it on the bed, seems a shame to ruin a good trailer.

The only reason I'm building this is to aid in the collection of saw logs and help when milling, so won't get lots of use. Got an 8x4 for running around with. Think I'm going to push on and then test drive it to see how it pulls. If it's terrible I'll rethink it. If I use a power pack to run it at least that's less Weight on the nose.

 

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[Craig.]

I'll check the nose weight tomorrow and see what it's sitting at. My guess is 300kg. Not sure I really want to mount it on the bed, seems a shame to ruin a good trailer.

The only reason I'm building this is to aid in the collection of saw logs and help when milling, so won't get lots of use. Got an 8x4 for running around with. Think I'm going to push on and then test drive it to see how it pulls. If it's terrible I'll rethink it. If I use a power pack to run it at least that's less Weight on the nose.

 

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If you decide to carry on with your current mounting set up, and plan on using a engine power pack, try and mount the power pack at the very rear of the trailer, underneath? to try and counter balance some of the weight of the crane on the nose weight.

[kentjames]

I can't find reference to it in the post so far so will ask anyway:

 

Why not fit it to the rear of the trailer and make it demountable with pins? Perhaps put the power pack to the front to balance it when empty?

 

James

[muttley9050]

The problem with having it demountable is being able to get it on or off. As it is its only held on with 8 bolts. The boom and rams etc can be removed in about 10 mins the rest in another 15. If I do power it with a power pack I won't mount it anywhere. It will just be scrapped to the bed nearer the back when rolling and bought up to the front when using it. Another reason not to mount it at the back is I will occasionally be using the trailer to transport a car. Also I guess it would give you the opposite problem if not enough nose weight.

If I were to put quick hitches on the 2 booms I reckon I could get it apart pretty cleanly and quickly wen not needed, so this may be an option worth considering?

 

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[muttley9050]

OK, I been playing around with some ideas on how to lower the nose weight, and something came up which I would like a second opinion on,

How about simply moving the axles forward a bit. Looks like a simple job to do and I was thinking maybe it's not as daft as it sounds?

 

 

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[Daniël Bos]

You'd end up with negative nose weight once you've got a log or two on board...

[treequip]

OK, I been playing around with some ideas on how to lower the nose weight, and something came up which I would like a second opinion on,

How about simply moving the axles forward a bit. Looks like a simple job to do and I was thinking maybe it's not as daft as it sounds?

 

 

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I gave this problem some thought a while back and the only way to make it work was to make the axles moveable so that when you were empty you could move the axles forward, and back when loaded.

 

Its going to cost you some payload but it will make towing it legal and far more comfortable.