What effect would scottish independence have on the UK tree industry?

[Dean Lofthouse]

Where would you like all the stuck up nobs to relocate to then, Leeds, Glasgow, Liverpool ?

 

They,ll still be nobs where ever they are

[Mr. Squirrel]

Why do the SNP and pro independence supporters always cite Norway as an example for Scotland to follow?

 

Norway has just elected a Thatcherite government.....so could someone from the YES camp please explain how Norway is the model for Scottish independence?

 

An independent Scotland would be the most socialist country in Europe, if it isn't already. A state based on the empty ideology of welfare-ism. The Norwegians are actively moving away from that kind if thing.

 

I'm not using Norway as an example of what Scotland will become. I'm saying that in terms of wealth, Norway far exceeds that of the UK, but they don't really seem to, or have any desire to 'hit above their weight' as some word it. Now obviously if it comes to throwing bank balance and they'd blow us all out of the water, but otherwise Norway, to me, seems fairly focused on self development where Westminster seems too eager to maintain an image to the rest of the world, an image which is long dead.

 

With regards to the monarchy, I imagine it's very hard to put a number on how much they actually bring in in terms of tourism. Almost as hard as it is to put a number on their income from all of their estate since its some sort of royal secret apparently. I think it's pretty twisted to invest tens of millions into a single family though, while telling others that there just isn't the money for their benefits anymore, and so I'd be happy to see the end of that archaic facade.

 

I suppose, looking at it, all of my points seem to boil down to images, which is pretty ridiculous really, but once you accept all of the numbers, promises, counter-arguments, coalitions, world wide stance etc. are largely hypothetical I guess it's all your left with...

 

I must stress I'm really not decided, though I kinda feel like I am. Salmond is just as slimey as Cameron, but at least he's a crook from my neck of the woods, y'know? That business with Trumps golf course and the destruction of SSSI sand dunes was pretty unforgivable in my opinion. And how successful did it turn out?... maybe this is just another 'super golf course'...

Edited March 6, 2014 by Mr. Squirrel

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

The royal family may cost 31million per year ( personally I think the figure is a little higher ) but I believe at last count they generated 1/2 a billion in tourism alone in the uk.

 

Exactly!!!

 

I have no real interest in them personally, but they seem like a pretty good investment

 

 

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[wrsni]

But I think important thing is that London didn't even consider N Ireland when it thought about fuel duty, because to them ONLY LONDON MATTERED......

 

With respect, not just as simple as that. Bear in mind that both Southern and Northern Ireland DO share membership of the EU and there is a general push there to make borders as insignificant as possible (although try telling that to someone sitting in the baking heat waiting to cross the border/runway in to Gibraltar, but that's another story!), however, the possiblities of Scotland and the rest of the UK NOT having the same EU status are significant, and the idea of having a land border with a nation not sharing that are a whole new ball game.

 

Where the London situation WAS relevant to Northern Ireland however was in attitude to terrorism. If the Republican terrorist movement had confined it's activities to this island they'd probably still be at it. In 1992 however they detonated a bomb in the financial district of London, the repair bill for that one attack was about 30% more than the TOTAL for every terrorist bomb in Northern Ireland since 1969. The desire to keep that sort of trouble out of London led to the situation we have now where the blaggards and their cronies on both sides have essentially as much money and concession thrown at them as they want as long as it keeps the semtex out of London and to hell with what's happening over here.

[Dean Lofthouse]

 

With regards to the monarchy, I imagine it's very hard to put a number on how much they actually bring in in terms of tourism. Almost as hard as it is to put a number on their income from all of their estate since its some sort of royal secret apparently. I think it's pretty twisted to invest tens of millions into a single family though, while telling others that there just isn't the money for their benefits anymore, and so I'd be happy to see the end of that archaic ..

 

See your looking at them from a prejudicial point of view not from a business point of view.

I don't particularly like the royal family buy I do love them as a business, if you had a business that had running costs of £30m that returned £500m you, d have to be thick as pig shite to wrap the business up. They also have a very high commercial value, we have only taken into account tourism

 

People need to look at the wider picture and take off their blinkers

 

 

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[woody3]

i wonder what will happen to the 30000 scots that work directly for the uk gov? snp haven't come up with a plan yet?

 

with Russian subs been in the moray firth twice in the last 12 months i wonder how scotland would cope?

[ArthurBottlesworth]

See your looking at them from a prejudicial point of view not from a business point of view.

I don't particularly like the royal family buy I do love them as a business, if you had a business that had running costs of £30m that returned £500m you, d have to be thick as pig shite to wrap the business up. They also have a very high commercial value, we have only taken into account tourism

 

People need to look at the wider picture and take off their blinkers

 

 

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Can someone point me to a website where it shows this income of £500,000,000.00 attributed to royals for a cost of £21,000,000.00

 

The crown estate was bought by gov't when royal needed to pay off his debts ....

It's nominally in ownership of queen, but in effect she can do nothing with it ...That was more about royals losing face in 1800's by going bust

 

They don't give us the income form it..... We own it

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[Dean Lofthouse]

Can someone point me to a website where it shows this income of £500,000,000.00 attributed to royals for a cost of £21,000,000.00

 

The crown estate was bought by gov't when royal needed to pay off his debts ....

It's nominally in ownership of queen, but in effect she can do nothing with it ...That was more about royals losing face in 1800's by going bust

 

They don't give us the income form it..... We own it

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A basic search will bring up results.

 

By ek, 1800, see that's the problem with you jocks, you can't forget the past

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

A basic search will bring up results.

 

By ek, 1800, see that's the problem with you jocks, you can't forget the past

 

1314 and 1746 neither.

[felixthelogchopper]

No .... we are all supposed to be treated equal are we not?

 

Of course we are all equal. Just some more than others.