Tree's failing?.....So move the target.

[chris cnc]

i wish there were more trees like this in our parks- contorted, unique, and interesting shapes, as well as untold ecological value! keep up the good work! im jealous of your job MonkeyD haha

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

David is one of the most "naturaly empathic" people i know, without doubt arboriculturaly speaking he is in a leuge of extrordinary people, his work on the CL sites is contempory arboriculture at its most refined.

 

Anyone who doesnt understand his work should refrain from negative comments until they have a full undertsanding of the benifits and reasonings behind this form of tree managment.

 

This is not JUST about poeple, or safety, this is taking full account of all the services rendered to man beast and plants by the trees, collectivley known as "eco-system services" a term you will ALL become more familiar with as bio diversity becomes a bigger and bigger issue globaly.

 

England, or rather the british isles, have a duty that is ours due to our incredibly rich and diverse veteran tree habitats, we simply have to maintain our vets, maybe not for the likes of YOU Huck, but for the fungi, the beetles and all the other forgotten life forms that have as much right to life and a home as you or i, some myself included may even argue they have more rights.

 

This is the most depressing thread I have read for a long time, because it is a reflection of just how far we have yet to go before this is standard practice.

[Taupotreeman]

Excellently said hamadryad

[David Humphries]

Excellently said hamadryad

 

Rubbish, the man talks out of his arse.................

 

 

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[David Humphries]

Four years on from the start of the thread.......an update

 

we noted one of the oaks in this line was leaning heavily and appeared to be in a slow but dynamic fall.

 

we felt there was time, so we lifted the original path & fence that were directly under the fall direction and relayed & re-errected them on the outside to mitigate the risk of anyone being under it when it did go over.

 

the tree went over some six months or so after the work and rested on its lower canopy with enough of its root crown still intact.

 

It continues to grow and looks set for a few decades more.

 

 

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[David Humphries]

Recently I had a look at the line to assess the lean on the second oak.

 

In comparison, images 1 & 3 (which were taken in 2008) appear to show little change to the shots I took recently (2 & 4)

 

 

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[David Humphries]

a few days after having looked at the trees (on a still late autumnal day) the second tree has now gone over as we expected it would.

 

Although it suffered a number of severed roots, much like the first subsided tree (which is still root intact & happily maintaining its canopy in its new orientation) I imagine that the second one will do likewise.

 

 

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[skyhuck]

Oh dear!!

 

This thread is approaching 5 years of age, imagine how well the replacement trees could have been doing, they could be really well established by now.

[David Humphries]

Oh dear!!

 

That's OK Dave, I understand that you don't get it

 

 

 

 

 

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Can I just add, how nice to see a return on this forum to a serious and heated debate, with strongly held opinions, about TREES

 

FWIW, my own opinion is that aesthetics are a matter of opinion (although I am aware of amenity value of landscape, but feel it remains too subjective to be reliably assessed) and will therefore always differ. Need for habitat vs. 'crop' are also subject to opinion, but are more evidence-based and hence can, to some extent, be weighed up, and could be used to form a view. I happen to like the non-uniformity and randomness myself, but that is purely personal.

 

David - next time you're there would it be possible to take a photo from the other end of the line (with the original fallen tree in the foreground) showing adaptation in the crown?

 

Alec