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[jonnygurkha]

Advice wanted please. I have a TB016 and I’m wondering if it would be up to the job of loading Ash cordwood into a tractor trailer and then onto a processor? The cordwood is probably 8-12” diameter. Firstly do you think the machine would lift that weight and secondly if so, should I go for a bucket and thumb arrangement or bite the bullet and get a grab with rotator? TIA

[woody paul]

More weight you put on end of boom less you will lift, and all depends on length of timber that diameter. 

[doobin]

12 hours ago, Gray git said:

Eventually got the grab delivered and piped up today, hopefully the cab guards won't be much longer.

Also found putting the ditching bucket on backwards makes a very quick chip loader

Is that a worm drive rotator? I know they offer a low profile one but it was a lot more money, in hindsight I should have gone for it with the amount I use the grab.

 

edit- found the original email. The lower profile rotator was 2.4K rather than £900- and from the photo they sent not much of a stack height saved on a 2.7t setup. 

Edited February 20, 2021 by doobin

[Husky89]

1 hour ago, jonnygurkha said:

Advice wanted please. I have a TB016 and I’m wondering if it would be up to the job of loading Ash cordwood into a tractor trailer and then onto a processor? The cordwood is probably 8-12” diameter. Firstly do you think the machine would lift that weight and secondly if so, should I go for a bucket and thumb arrangement or bite the bullet and get a grab with rotator? TIA

I have a tb016 and for its size it's very powerful. I have had it lifting large lengths of poplar, with a thumb. As woody Paul says a grab will mean you lift less but it'd be so much more useful. Is yours piped for a grab? 

[fen01]

I'm after some advice from those who know and have some experience. I'm going to sell.my alpine and get a digger primarily for feeding a 12" chipper, but I would also like to be able to do some flailing, shearing small trees and hedges with it as well as some.digging. I'll be moving it behind a mog so not too worried about weight. I've sort of narrowed it down to something in the 5-8t range, probably erring towards 5t due to the compactness of the machine. We use a bloke with a super reach 21t for big stuff, so not worried too much about working on big trees with it. My gut feeling is whatever will be a compromise between nimbleness, stability and lifting/flow capacity...

What are poses thoughts and experiences? Cheers

[jonnygurkha]

I have a tb016 and for its size it's very powerful. I have had it lifting large lengths of poplar, with a thumb. As woody Paul says a grab will mean you lift less but it'd be so much more useful. Is yours piped for a grab? 

That makes sense, the thumb is cheaper and probably more versatile day to day. My machine is piped for a breaker. I think the thumb is the way to go. Thank you

[woody paul]

1 hour ago, jonnygurkha said:

 

That makes sense, the thumb is cheaper and probably more versatile day to day. My machine is piped for a breaker. I think the thumb is the way to go. Thank you

 

With a thump no messing about changing from bucket to grab just use bucket that is fitted or just change to bucket or rake for the day's job. 

[Lowestoft Firewood]

I also have a TB016 with a thumb and its really useful, but when scraping up rakings (hopefully getting proper rake soon, just use ditching bucket at the moment) it really needs something wider on the thumb to grab the material to put it in trailer. 

 

If you are getting a thumb made up, I would recommend making what is essentially one side of a grab as well as a thin thumb for logs.

 

Also i recommend using a ripper tooth rather than a bucket to grab timber, fits in between logs and only leaves a small rip in the ground if grabbing stuff on the ground. I got mine from Rhinox.

Takeuchi TB016 Ripper Tooth

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Rhinox Ripper Tooth to fit Takeuchi TB016. This high-end ripper tooth is ideal for breaking hard ground, or stripping stubborn...

 

[doobin]

A thumb is OK for some stuff, but hopeless for others. A grapple is a good halfway house between the thumb and a proper grab, especially if you make the back half hydraulic. Any time lost swapping to grapple is soon regained by not messing about with a thumb IMHO. A normal fixed (or even hydraulic) thumb is good for big rocks when trenching, any other jobs make it look clumsy compared to a grapple.

 

As the guys above state, the design of the thumb as well as the attachment it's paired with makes a big difference as to what you can do with it, and from this point of view it has merit. However, you've got to have a lot of one sort of work to justify making an awesome thumb/attachment combo up for it, so I stand by my point that a grapple is a much better all rounder for most.

 

If all you are doing is loading firewood, by far and away the best soloution would be a cheap dangle type grab/rotator plus an electronic flow divertor. With a thumb or a grapple, you really need to constantly be at 90 degrees to to pick up/drop off point, which is hard to achieve in reality. Being able to rotate is a game changer, and for dangle mount on a mini digger it's often cheaper than you think.

Edited February 20, 2021 by doobin

[william127]

11 hours ago, jonnygurkha said:

Advice wanted please. I have a TB016 and I’m wondering if it would be up to the job of loading Ash cordwood into a tractor trailer and then onto a processor? The cordwood is probably 8-12” diameter. Firstly do you think the machine would lift that weight and secondly if so, should I go for a bucket and thumb arrangement or bite the bullet and get a grab with rotator? TIA

Depends how high your trailer is and how heavy your timbers are really! If you need maximum height and minimum weight of attachment a thumb would be best, but if you have plenty of height/weight to spare a grab would be more efficient.

I had a thumb on my kubota kx36-3 and that was not as good a machine as a tb016, I lifted and shifted hundreds of tons of timber with it, including some far far too heavy lumps! 

I started out using my ripper tooth as my bucket for lifting but I switched to these RSL bolt on teeth on a 9 inch bucket and that was much much better.

The other good things about a thumb are the fact that you can always have it with you, and they are so cheap that if you decide to upgrade to a grab you have only spent a couple of hundred quid on something that will come in useful for other jobs anyway!