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On 03/03/2019 at 11:34, Matthew Storrs said:

Feel for you- I could fill a thread with reasons why I don’t do residential/domestic fencing but basically find it far too finicky, there’s allways problems to contend with- utilities,neighbour disputes, concrete, tree roots- just all sorts of urban crap I can’t be arsed with- even down to getting a trailer in on a tight street, finding somewhere to park, handballing everything into a back garden, nowhere to go for a pee. literally nothing about it appeals at all!

Takes all sorts as they say,,! I'd rather be on a domestic fence than anything else- I make sure I'm charging as much as there plumber/sparkie/roofer, and if its taken me all day to walk all the panels from the end of the road I get paid for it....

And I'd rather carry logs for someone else than do stock fencing!!

I make a killing doing domestic fencing, I should do it 6 days a week  but I might go slightly loopy and I do love my machines...

 

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On 03/03/2019 at 11:34, Matthew Storrs said:

Feel for you- I could fill a thread with reasons why I don’t do residential/domestic fencing but basically find it far too finicky, there’s allways problems to contend with- utilities,neighbour disputes, concrete, tree roots- just all sorts of urban crap I can’t be arsed with- even down to getting a trailer in on a tight street, finding somewhere to park, handballing everything into a back garden, nowhere to go for a pee. literally nothing about it appeals at all!

Haha, just read this. So very true. 

 

I'll list my peeves

 

- Customer wants to schedule a half day job when you're booked for 2 months in advance. Refuses to leave it flexible even if you will update them a few days in advance as time approaches to see if it's feasible. 

 

Quote it for flexible, adding 50% mark up for fixed date

 

- No toilet

 

Put a paint kettle in the van or pee in the chip box if it's pointed away from public eyes

 

 - Want 5 quote variations

 

Ask budget or decline

 

Quote £1500 and they say it's a bit much they would consider getting it done if can get below £1000

 

Tell them where to go

 

Wisteria growing through the fence line

 

If it dies it dies or double the quote

 

Altering quote after the fact cos neighbour refuses to pay their half - Decline or cancel

 

Unresolved boundary issues

 

Run away

 

Post positions have to be near a TPO'd Oak

 

Run away

 

Fence repairs cos they're too cheap to replace

 

Tell them where to go or quote high and buy all manner of sundries to keep as stock if you don't need them

 

 

 

The list is endless...

 

 

 

 

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On 26/05/2019 at 08:33, forestboy1978 said:

Haha, just read this. So very true. 

 

I'll list my peeves

 

- Customer wants to schedule a half day job when you're booked for 2 months in advance. Refuses to leave it flexible even if you will update them a few days in advance as time approaches to see if it's feasible. 

 

Quote it for flexible, adding 50% mark up for fixed date

 

- No toilet

 

Put a paint kettle in the van or pee in the chip box if it's pointed away from public eyes

 

 - Want 5 quote variations

 

Ask budget or decline

 

Quote £1500 and they say it's a bit much they would consider getting it done if can get below £1000

 

Tell them where to go

 

Wisteria growing through the fence line

 

If it dies it dies or double the quote

 

Altering quote after the fact cos neighbour refuses to pay their half - Decline or cancel

 

Unresolved boundary issues

 

Run away

 

Post positions have to be near a TPO'd Oak

 

Run away

 

Fence repairs cos they're too cheap to replace

 

Tell them where to go or quote high and buy all manner of sundries to keep as stock if you don't need them

 

 

 

The list is endless...

 

 

 

 

When a customer rings up to say they have brought all the materials they just need me to install. Sorry, its supply and fit only. They never buy the correct stuff, and i am putting my name to inferior materials. The final straw before i brought in the rule was a guy brought some fancy panels and gravel boards, 3inch posts. I turned up, 6ft 6inch high fence, he brought 7ft posts. He had to go and change them, the whole time i was standing around not being able to get on. When he returns, no cleats for the gravel boards. He found some old battening to cut up. So i installed all posts and gravel boards, ready to then slot the panels in. And the panels were all 30mm too short. He tried to blame me, but i didnt supply the materials! I should of learnt first time around when he got me to put up some cheap panels he got that were obviously home made, as they were all out of square, somehow this was my fault too!

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1 hour ago, dig-dug-dan said:

When a customer rings up to say they have brought all the materials they just need me to install. Sorry, its supply and fit only. They never buy the correct stuff, and i am putting my name to inferior materials. The final straw before i brought in the rule was a guy brought some fancy panels and gravel boards, 3inch posts. I turned up, 6ft 6inch high fence, he brought 7ft posts. He had to go and change them, the whole time i was standing around not being able to get on. When he returns, no cleats for the gravel boards. He found some old battening to cut up. So i installed all posts and gravel boards, ready to then slot the panels in. And the panels were all 30mm too short. He tried to blame me, but i didnt supply the materials! I should of learnt first time around when he got me to put up some cheap panels he got that were obviously home made, as they were all out of square, somehow this was my fault too!

Are 6 ft gravel boards and 180mm panels measure twice comes to mind.

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2 hours ago, dig-dug-dan said:

When a customer rings up to say they have brought all the materials they just need me to install. Sorry, its supply and fit only. They never buy the correct stuff, and i am putting my name to inferior materials. The final straw before i brought in the rule was a guy brought some fancy panels and gravel boards, 3inch posts. I turned up, 6ft 6inch high fence, he brought 7ft posts. He had to go and change them, the whole time i was standing around not being able to get on. When he returns, no cleats for the gravel boards. He found some old battening to cut up. So i installed all posts and gravel boards, ready to then slot the panels in. And the panels were all 30mm too short. He tried to blame me, but i didnt supply the materials! I should of learnt first time around when he got me to put up some cheap panels he got that were obviously home made, as they were all out of square, somehow this was my fault too!

I would be spitting feathers in that scenario OMG. 

 

Trellis is always 180 and panels 183. There is no way around that fact. 

 

Yeah I only supply and fit now. Also made that mistake once or twice. Also I only use suppliers of my choosing. They can like it or lump it. This is especially so with sheds that can be a right bugger if they are crap design and materials. 

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2 hours ago, woody paul said:

Are 6 ft gravel boards and 180mm panels measure twice comes to mind.

 

2 hours ago, woody paul said:

Are 6 ft gravel boards and 180mm panels measure twice comes to mind.

Panels are 1.830m. Gravel boards are 1.830. These panels were 1.8 dead. 

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1 hour ago, dig-dug-dan said:

 

Panels are 1.830m. Gravel boards are 1.830. These panels were 1.8 dead. 

I have found some decorative panels are 1.8 and not 1.83 which makes things interesting. 

Its like when people ask for a new gate to be hang on old posts and you ask how old gate is, and they say it's 15years old and you try to explain a metric gate will not fit. 

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2 hours ago, dig-dug-dan said:

 

Panels are 1.830m. Gravel boards are 1.830. These panels were 1.8 dead. 

I see what you mean now. Yeah, ball ache.

 

As Woody says the decorative ones are often 1.8. Highly annoying...

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Last couple of days doing Picket fence around pond to keep little ones out.

 

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