Bad News Ash Disease discovered in East Anglia

[Vigen Tigen]

On 22/08/2022 at 09:17, Stere said:

Pretty sure its adb.

 

As for what to do you could prune remove the dead bits back to live wood. It probably won't help the tree recover or even survive long run but u never know....

 

Trees nearby hopefully might be more resistant. I wouldn't worry about them getting infected by the little tree, as the spores are everywhere  and they will still get it anyway, if they are gonna get it etc regardless...

Thanks and will follow your advice. The trees nearby are mature so probably why they're not currently showing signs. Will enjoy them while I can though... 

[Vigen Tigen]

On 22/08/2022 at 12:08, coppice cutter said:

Strangely I don't tend to see many withered leaves on trees with dieback.

 

Usually there's healthy looking branches with leaves interspersed with bare dead branches with nothing. So you get the dead man's fingers appearance sticking out the top of the tree.

 

In any case, little or no point doing anything other than let nature take it's course anyway.

Yep, nature is never wrong even if we don't understand it!

[coppice cutter]

14 minutes ago, Vigen Tigen said:

Yep, nature is never wrong even if we don't understand it!

Absolutely, the consequences of human interference are seldom mitigated by more human interference*.

 

Just let nature get on with it.

 

* - tree planting excepted. But plant them and then let nature get on with it!

[Stubby]

5 hours ago, coppice cutter said:

Absolutely, the consequences of human interference are seldom mitigated by more human interference*.

 

Just let nature get on with it.

 

* - tree planting excepted. But plant them and then let nature get on with it!

I think , on occasion , that nature can be a bad manager . I am talking in terms of a " wild " pond . I have spent many an hour digging out the silt and cutting back the reeds on a neglected pond to promote duck life .  The building of a nesting island in the center . If left to nature it would have silted right up and be covered with reeds and end up with no pond and no ducks ducks .

[coppice cutter]

3 hours ago, Stubby said:

I think , on occasion , that nature can be a bad manager . I am talking in terms of a " wild " pond . I have spent many an hour digging out the silt and cutting back the reeds on a neglected pond to promote duck life .  The building of a nesting island in the center . If left to nature it would have silted right up and be covered with reeds and end up with no pond and no ducks ducks .

But that's only because somebody has decided that they want a pond where nature has no need for a pond.

 

You can't expect nature to look after something that it didn't want there in the first instance surely?

[Stere]

Nature is dynamic always changing

 

Thats a mistake alot consevationist practice  makes imo always  trying to artificially hold landscapes in  stasis.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Stubby]

8 hours ago, coppice cutter said:

But that's only because somebody has decided that they want a pond where nature has no need for a pond.

 

You can't expect nature to look after something that it didn't want there in the first instance surely?

I take your point but it was not dug , it was a natural pond to begin with .

[Dan Maynard]

It's an interesting one, conservation in the woods I volunteer at is cutting down trees, and they mow grass too. This is to conserve the wildlife which has grown accustomed to a coppice woodland over hundreds and probably thousands of years.

 

When the MOD owned the wood they did nothing, all the trees grew up and covered the ground. Massive decline in orchids, wildflowers, hence decline in butterflies and birds, dormice, et al.

[coppice cutter]

1 hour ago, Stubby said:

I take your point but it was not dug , it was a natural pond to begin with .

Then nature must have decided to have a bit of bogland rather than a pond.

 

Better going with the flow, or lack of it in this case.

[Stubby]

4 hours ago, coppice cutter said:

Then nature must have decided to have a bit of bogland rather than a pond.

 

 

Thats what I meant . She is not always a good manager .🙂