Setting up

[Stephen Blair]

The most efficient way of doing tree work in gardens, is to not remove the debris from the garden. Simples.

Log it and leave it, sawdust on the compost heap and micro chipper below the tree, leaving mulch.

Here is a list of kit I have used or owned and none of it was cheap to buy, run and as profitable as a micro chipper in a garden

Daihatsu four track and 16' caged trailer

Transit tipper with 6" chipper

U1200 unimog with 8" pto chipper

Bedford 1.5 ton skid steer

Jcb

Micro digger

1.5 ton digger

3 ton digger

5 ton digger

13 ton digger

Tracked bobcat skidsteer

Avant loader with grab

U2150 unimog with winch and 10"chipper

Valmet 8950 with 9m crane with 16' high sided trailer and chipper

U900 unimog with 7" chipper

Merc 4x4 lorry with rear hiab with winch and rear mounted removable vari tracked 7"chipper

Isuzu rodeo king cab with trailer

2 hilux pickups

2 Isuzu troopers

3 4x4 quads for extracting brash, timber and towing chippers

Valmet 8100 with rear crane

Iveco 4x4

3 ton tracked dumper

5ton tracked damper with timber crane

Botox timber trailer

Hook loader with crane to shift machinery and remove timber

Transit panel vans

Iveco tipper with 8' caged sides

Nissan patrol with 6" tow behind chipper

2 vw transporters

Mowi timber trailer

10 ton trailer with 4 ton hiab

Front mount 6" schiesling chipper

3 ton swivel dumper

50 foot hiab on flat bed

Forestry tractors with mulchers

 

And there is probably more I have forgotten about.

I would like to add crane and helicopter to that list, and I know guys on here use them regularly .

 

Nothing beats many hands on deck, but that costs a lot of money, humans getill, drunk, order, resentfull and more, things that effect profit and business.

Machines reduces labour but adds a whole different type of problems.

The less you take, the less to go wrong.

The more you take, the more you need to charge or the more you need to do.

The above is not to put you down, or to try and look impressive, it's to give you an idea of the type of guys who are reading your posts, and I am just pretty much a 1 man band in a little pond.

Buying kit, borrowing money adds pressure as well, this leads to stress.

It's all very well offering the best tree service in the world, but you have to make money, stay sain and not cut bits off your body lol

It's worth reading through old threads, pictures and videos

[scotspine1]

woodmouse,

 

in your first post on Arbtalk you said this:

 

I don't have much experience with trees

 

 

yet you think you can start and run a successful tree care business?

 

For talkin's sake, let's liken the tree care industry to an ocean - a trainee arborist/tree surgeon whose been in the job about 2 years is sitting in a small boat on top of this vast ocean, all he can see is the surface, that's all he's learned about in the short time he's been doing treework, but there's a whole world beneath him he has still to learn about.

 

At this moment your about 10 miles inland.

 

If you want really want to be a success in this game, give the industry the respect it deserves and go out and get some experience before you think of starting a business, this experience will help make your business a success.

[Stephen Blair]

Analogy of the day there!

Great post Piney!!

[jrose]

I like that ocean description a lot, I tend to think of myself in terms of rivers:

 

I'm currently paddling about upriver in a little coracle, slightly upstream are the companies I subby for in little motorboats, out in the estuary is the bigger boats and then right out at sea is the oil tanker that is Tilhill etc... if that makes sense?

 

I want to get to motorboat level at least!

[Stephen Blair]

I want a Lilo in a pool:)

[Treemoose]

Rubber ring attached to a speed boat for me?

[skyhuck]

I have some powerful binoculars and can see the sea from my house

[Taupotreeman]

woodmouse,

 

in your first post on Arbtalk you said this:

 

 

 

 

yet you think you can start and run a successful tree care business?

 

For talkin's sake, let's liken the tree care industry to an ocean - a trainee arborist/tree surgeon whose been in the job about 2 years is sitting in a small boat on top of this vast ocean, all he can see is the surface, that's all he's learned about in the short time he's been doing treework, but there's a whole world beneath him he has still to learn about.

 

At this moment your about 10 miles inland.

 

If you want really want to be a success in this game, give the industry the respect it deserves and go out and get some experience before you think of starting a business, this experience will help make your business a success.

 

:thumbup: Nice.

[WoodMouse]

Thats a great suggestion Stephen. Micro Chipper in the garden and mulch the trees and compost. I like that, giving something back.

 

That is the plan SctosPine1, managed to get a day with a team already, but transport to that side of London may be too much. I'd have to get the first bus in the morning, and their not so reliable. Public transport wont get me there in time. For anyone that knows the east croydon/west croydon thing is difficult to get round.

 

But, until such a time, this is the greatest resource i have. So until i've secured said experience, you'll just have to suffer my dumb ass questions or ignore me. In fact if you'd read the entire thread, you'd see we covered this already. But yea, important step gaining experience.

[Gnome]

I like that ocean description a lot, I tend to think of myself in terms of rivers:

 

I'm currently paddling about upriver in a little coracle, slightly upstream are the companies I subby for in little motorboats, out in the estuary is the bigger boats and then right out at sea is the oil tanker that is Tilhill etc... if that makes sense?

 

I want to get to motorboat level at least!

 

 

Just have a little tinkle in the river upstream from time to time, can't even see past the waterfall.