How much Arb "waste" can you process in a day?

[benedmonds]

I read the threads about people doing hundreds of cube a day on there fancy machines, using straight timber.

 

I don't have that I have big piles of logs from tree surgery. What sort of quanities should a couple of guys be able to process with arb arisings, using a chainsaw and a PTO mounted splitter?

[Chris Sheppard]

Varies a bit depending on how much sawing is needed but if it's fairly manageable pieces we can do 3 cube of 8-10 inch long logs an hour with two of us, a chainsaw and an 18T PTO splitter with 4 way knife.

 

Really big stuff (two man lift with each ring) then it's probably nearer a cube an hour if it's to saw as well.

[delabodge]

its a good question,,,, we manage about 1m3 with a riko 11Ar spliter every 45 mins, if its nice rings under 18inch,,,,,,, from arb waste.

I question buying in artic loads of straight firewood at £40 per ton,+ £10 per ton delivery, so a ton on average producing 1.5 cubic meters (presuming the timber was green when delivered)= I charge £80 per m3, so 1.5 m3 from the ton would return me £120,,,,after costs of,,,,,,,£50 wood,then add labour,storage(ie yard rent)fuel for delivery, cubic net bags, ,,I cant see it makes commercial sense unless you have a fancy bit of £15k kit,(processor) plus £10k worth of loader,,,,(which you need a return on) then i see why your m3 price must be £100 plus!

I think people selling arb waste firewood can afford to charge less for the end product as we`ve usally been paid to remove it, but it takes longer than processor timber!

[benedmonds]

its a good question,,,, we manage about 1m3 with a riko 11Ar spliter every 45 mins, if its nice rings under 18inch,,,,,,, from arb waste.

I think people selling arb waste firewood can afford to charge less for the end product as we`ve usally been paid to remove it, but it takes longer than processor timber!

 

I am not so sure. I had two lads sawing all day, they managed to fill a 3.5 ton trailer and half the back of the 130 with wood ready to be split, I'm guessing only 5-7 cube. The sawing seems to be taking ages, it still needs to be split and bagged. So if one guy can spilt and bag that in a day (or two in half)it will work out at only 2 cube a man day. Bags, fuel, chain, storage, delivery etc.. I can't see much profit at £80..

[Johny Walker]

I am not so sure. I had two lads sawing all day, they managed to fill a 3.5 ton trailer and half the back of the 130 with wood ready to be split, I'm guessing only 5-7 cube. The sawing seems to be taking ages, it still needs to be split and bagged. So if one guy can spilt and bag that in a day (or two in half)it will work out at only 2 cube a man day. Bags, fuel, chain, storage, delivery etc.. I can't see much profit at £80..

 

needs 1,sawing 1, splitting ,you wont make much paying 2,wages out ,to max profit you need to do it your sen ,thats what i do ,or get them logging wen they have an early finish,get yr moneys worth out of them if yr paying them for 8hrs have them earning for 8hrs

Edited July 22, 2012 by Johny Walker

[Chris Sheppard]

I am not so sure. I had two lads sawing all day, they managed to fill a 3.5 ton trailer and half the back of the 130 with wood ready to be split, I'm guessing only 5-7 cube. The sawing seems to be taking ages, it still needs to be split and bagged. So if one guy can spilt and bag that in a day (or two in half)it will work out at only 2 cube a man day. Bags, fuel, chain, storage, delivery etc.. I can't see much profit at £80..

 

I'd say your two men sawing are either having a laugh or are using too small or blunt saws if that's all they've sawn in a day and not even split it.

[skyhuck]

I'd say your two men sawing are either having a laugh or are using too small or blunt saws if that's all they've sawn in a day and not even split it.

 

Agreed.

[sandbach-sticks]

I find splitting into long lengths 700mm-1m then through circ saw speeds up process, less time on chainsaw and stress on your back. 3m cube ibc crates on my own in half a day, includes chainsaw into 700mm lengths, splitting and then circ saw into 9 inch logs.

[Stephen Blair]

Turn your team into a 3 man team and you should manage a builders bag in approx 20mins, we did.

Splitter beside the timber, first guy gets a 5 min head start while the other 2 set up the bags, we used trestles.

Once the splitter guy gets going the saw guy keeps him fed, the other guy passes big lumps back onto a table for splitter, fills bags, gets rings to splitter guy aswell.

When it comes to changing bags over, saw guy nips over and helps if need be, and so forth.

Thee always has to be a conductor to keep,things flowing in a team of 3 , I used to be the bagger.

Your 2 guys are either useless or lazy!

[Tom D]

I used to leave one guy doing logs when I was busy with other stuff. (arbtalk) He used to average 8-10 cube a day sawing the cord and splitting with a pto splitter.

 

Now we are still doing crappy arb waste but with 2-3 guys and a 30 ton billet splitter and a processor, we can do 20-50 cube a day depending on what sort of stuff we are dealing with.