Go on then, What was your best Present??

[harvey b davison]

35 Years as a chippy and can honestly say one make i have never used. Been around all the time i have been working so must be quality 

The cordless stuff is very reliable. They're not as comfortable in the hand as say makita, but they are built like a tank, used and abused in all weather , dropped, bashed, you name it and they just keep going. The weak point is the batteries, for some reason they just don't seem to last.

[harvey b davison]

Congratulations, I got this amongst other stuff

   

That's a lovely knife, I was only thinking a while back I wouldn't mind a nice Bowie style knife. The last one I had, was one of those useless rabbit foot handled one [emoji23]

[topchippyles]

4 minutes ago, harvey b davison said:

26 minutes ago, topchippyles said:

35 Years as a chippy and can honestly say one make i have never used. Been around all the time i have been working so must be quality 

The cordless stuff is very reliable. They're not as comfortable in the hand as say makita, but they are built like a tank, used and abused in all weather , dropped, bashed, you name it and they just keep going. The weak point is the batteries, for some reason they just don't seem to last.

Never see that main stream trade guys use them funny enough

[Macpherson]

15 minutes ago, topchippyles said:

35 Years as a chippy and can honestly say one make i have never used. Been around all the time i have been working so must be quality 

Yep, while I do work with wood it's generally only for myself so I can't really justify the absolute top of the range makes although I do use corded Dewalt grinders as I do a lot of stonework and they're a cut above anything else I've used.

 

I found Metabo probably 7 years ago with their thicknesser planer which at the time was a toss up between them and Scheppach and I don't regret my choice, and as things need replaced they've be come my go to brand.

 

 

[Macpherson]

18 minutes ago, harvey b davison said:

41 minutes ago, topchippyles said:

35 Years as a chippy and can honestly say one make i have never used. Been around all the time i have been working so must be quality 

The cordless stuff is very reliable. They're not as comfortable in the hand as say makita, but they are built like a tank, used and abused in all weather , dropped, bashed, you name it and they just keep going. The weak point is the batteries, for some reason they just don't seem to last.

You may have just answered the question I was going to ask you, my aging Makita old red battery stuff is needing replaced and I was / am thinking of metabo but I'll need to do a bit of research.... with Makita I've gone through 2 lots of 2 batteries in 14 years, the 2nd being aftermarket which I can't complain about. [ only cordless drills ]

 

So in your opinion [ and I know it's an impossible question ] how much less do you think the batteries last and if just comparing the tools, longevity / robustness / power of motor, which would you rate highest.. and or any other recommendations ?

 

It's a big decision as you know, once you go down a route with a particular battery then all your tools follow.  

For much of my stuff I've remained corded simply so that I have the power I need, cheers.

[topchippyles]

I use einhell and stuff is bomb blast proof

[Macpherson]

5 minutes ago, topchippyles said:

I use einhell and stuff is bomb blast proof

For you're cordless gear or both ?  Can you compare it to Makita ?

 

Being German it may be on a par with Metabo.

Edited December 28, 2021 by Macpherson

[harvey b davison]

You may have just answered the question I was going to ask you, my aging Makita old red battery stuff is needing replaced and I was / am thinking of metabo but I'll need to do a bit of research.... with Makita I've gone through 2 lots of 2 batteries in 14 years, the 2nd being aftermarket which I can't complain about. [ only cordless drills ]
 
So in your opinion [ and I know it's an impossible question ] how much less do you think the batteries last and if just comparing the tools, longevity / robustness / power of motor, which would you rate highest.. and or any other recommendations ?
 
It's a big decision as you know, once you go down a route with a particular battery then all your tools follow.  
For much of my stuff I've remained corded simply so that I have the power I need, cheers.

The tools themselves will last just as long as makita/dewalt/Bosch etc. The batteries in my mind just seem quicker to run down. I have both 4amp and 5 amp batteries and they both seem to run down quicker than my milwaukee and strangely enough my ryobi batteries. I know my batteries are 5 yr old + so it could just be the age of them.

One thing to note, is that the metabo range of tools is nowhere near some of its competitors like makita and ryobi.

Another thing to be wary of is the fact that Hitachi and metabo are now interlinked which could be a bad thing. I was talking to the dealers I use a few weeks back, and they were explaining that it's looking like there could be a big upheaval in there manufacturing.

They also explained that all manufacturers are going down the route of making it harder to repair tools, in some cases things like a bust trigger could result in needing a new machine as the manufacturers wont supply a simple trigger anymore, and this is happening across the board.

Me personally, If I need a good robust tool, then I will continue buying metabo. If it's for use in the joiners shop where it's not going to be abused, I'm becoming a big fan of ryobi. I also have a few bits of Milwaukee stuff, which is pretty decent.

Anyway, sorry for the rambling, hope it helps.

[Macpherson]

1 hour ago, harvey b davison said:

The tools themselves will last just as long as makita/dewalt/Bosch etc. The batteries in my mind just seem quicker to run down. I have both 4amp and 5 amp batteries and they both seem to run down quicker than my milwaukee and strangely enough my ryobi batteries. I know my batteries are 5 yr old + so it could just be the age of them.

One thing to note, is that the metabo range of tools is nowhere near some of its competitors like makita and ryobi.

Another thing to be wary of is the fact that Hitachi and metabo are now interlinked which could be a bad thing. I was talking to the dealers I use a few weeks back, and they were explaining that it's looking like there could be a big upheaval in there manufacturing.

They also explained that all manufacturers are going down the route of making it harder to repair tools, in some cases things like a bust trigger could result in needing a new machine as the manufacturers wont supply a simple trigger anymore, and this is happening across the board.
 
Me personally, If I need a good robust tool, then I will continue buying metabo. If it's for use in the joiners shop where it's not going to be abused, I'm becoming a big fan of ryobi. I also have a few bits of Milwaukee stuff, which is pretty decent.

Anyway, sorry for the rambling, hope it helps.

Thanks for the comprehensive answer, I'll also probably also continue to go with Metabo corded unless I start to notice a drop in quality which you highlighted may happen.

 

It's interesting that you compare Makita and Ryobi.. It must be that ryobi have improved in recent years without my noticing.. as may a lot of brands, Milwaukee is another that I've looked at but not used, there are just so many choices that I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet and take a chance when it comes to renewing my cordless kit,  cheers.

[muttley9050]

Thanks for the comprehensive answer, I'll also probably also continue to go with Metabo corded unless I start to notice a drop in quality which you highlighted may happen.
 
It's interesting that you compare Makita and Ryobi.. It must be that ryobi have improved in recent years without my noticing.. as may a lot of brands, Milwaukee is another that I've looked at but not used, there are just so many choices that I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet and take a chance when it comes to renewing my cordless kit,  cheers.

My friend runs ryobi tools and I run makita. In my experience the makita outlast and outwork the ryobi. I wouldn't touch it.