Christians on arbtalk?

[skyhuck]

Any religion is based on the belief that you have a soul. If believe you have a soul you need to choose a religion or make up your own ideals. I don't care what people believe so long as they don't try to impose their ideals on others. None of us are going to find out for real until we die, so no point fighting over it

 

The Jehovah's Witness don't believe we have a soul, they believe that this was the first lie that the devil (in the form of a snake) told to Eve, that she would not die, because of her soul, if we have a soul,then we don't really die, so don't need Jesus to die for our sins.

[gibbon]

Do they not believe in an afterlife?

[PhilBeech]

My head hurts lol

[easy-lift guy]

My head hurts lol

 

Take Two Asprin and log back in the morning:lol:

easy-lift guy

[tommer9]

Its the 132 birthday of the JWs this year isnt it? I think they were invented in 1881 werent they Dave?

[skyhuck]

Do they not believe in an afterlife?

 

Nope, they believe in resurrection, they are nearer to what the bible actually says than most other religions, their only problem is that the bible is nonsense, its a real shame .

[skyhuck]

Its the 132 birthday of the JWs this year isnt it? I think they were invented in 1881 werent they Dave?

 

Sort of 1879 I think was the founding of what became the JW's, but 90% of what they now believe is totally different to what they believed back then, they are very good at changing things to suit current times

[Mark J]

I came across this the other day. Seems fitting to put it here.

[Mick Stockbridge]

Is that the Pope that was in the Hitler youth?

[TimberCutterDartmoor]

thought is sin and so on. This I disagree with, I can think what I like, it's how I progress from those thoughts that matters surely. !

 

Interesting point. My mate (married) used to have a saying about other women - "no harm in window shopping, just don't ram raid!" or you could say "I browse but I never buy"... This is a thought becoming action (or not) example and assumes the thought was innocent (not wrong) and guiltless whereas going beyond that would be (of course the whole right and wrong thing is another matter). But there is something that comes between thoughts and actions i.e. the imagination. The imagination is where thoughts are squeezed into form, so I personally think one must be like a hawk over ones' imagination. Ask someone who commited a murder for instance; did you just get up one day and think "yeah, it's a nice day for commiting a couple of murders"? Usually not. Usually, it starts as a little seed that grows and grows in the imagination and then ultimately manifests. So, there are thoughts on both side of the fence and they should be filtered and either developed or destroyed as appropriate.

 

Disobedience to God......

 

The moralising and legalising of the Gospel of Grace is a dull heresy peddled to dissapointed people who are angry because they have not received what they had no good reason to expect.

 

well I guess if you count losing your free will as "nothing" many men have gone to great lengths and even lost thier lives in order to secure thier freedoms, so freedom must be something of value, and to be "god fearing" is not freedom, is it?

 

Oh, but it is!

 

how do you know he loves you?

 

Like when you meet the right man / woman. Boy, you know it!

 

Any religion is based on the belief that you have a soul. If believe you have a soul you need to choose a religion or make up your own ideals. I don't care what people believe so long as they don't try to impose their ideals on others. None of us are going to find out for real until we die, so no point fighting over it

 

The soul is the generic term for the mind, will and emotions. Religion acknowledges these but adds the spirit. Man is flesh, spirit and soul. The flesh eventually dies, the other two?!!! Go and ask a practicing Wican if they are looking forward to Gehena. Nice.

 

Plenty of narcissism here; i.e. the worship of our own intellect. We say if we don't understand it we don't believe it. Then in essence you are your own god.