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In theory, if you're climbing limb by limb, you could put a little prussik on your line, krab tied to the end. Each limb just clip into the prussik, set it so the krab won't cross load against the branch and away you go. Quicker than tying running bowlines repeatedly.

 

that is exactly what i was looking for thanks a lot mate, i didn't even think of that, i prefer the idea of ataching the single line in the tip of the tree than the base of the tree my ground men have a tendency of cutting ropes!!! so once i get back onto the floor how do i retrieve the line out of the tree after tieing it up there? do i need to attach a throw line to it before i come down, hope I'm making sense again

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If you put an alpine butterfly in from the ground put the working end through the butterfly and pull into the crotch. This use an extra length of line though. To retrieve pull on the other side. Do you really want to climb to the TIP before you come down!?

 

For really long limb walks you can install a hand ascender with a revolver, clip the tail in and when you walk back on pull the tail like a rads system.

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In theory, if you're climbing limb by limb, you could put a little prussik on your line, krab tied to the end. Each limb just clip into the prussik, set it so the krab won't cross load against the branch and away you go. Quicker than tying running bowlines repeatedly.

 

But then its not retreivable from the ground. If you use a bowline you can pull it back down with your thowline.

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But then its not retreivable from the ground. If you use a bowline you can pull it back down with your thowline.

 

I didn't mean as a retrievable anchor,i just meant for an initial ascent without using a throw line. Once you get to your tip,i wouldn't be using a krab, i'd use a running bowline or alpine butterfly. I wouldn't trust a krab left alone to knock and rub against things...

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that is exactly hat i was looking for thanks a lot mate, i didn't even think of that, i prefer the idea of ataching the single line in the tip of the tree than the base of the tree my ground men have a tendency of cutting ropes!!! so once i get back onto the floor how do i retrieve the line out of the tree after tieing it up there? do i need to attach a throw line to it before i come down, hope I'm making sense again

 

As the previous post,i didn't mean as a final tip.

 

Though, if unlike me you wanted to use this method, you could put a micro pulley on top of the prussik, tie your throw line to it, then with a lot of force pull the whole lot down when you're done, but you would need enough rope to reach the tip and have both ends on the ground. Also the prussik would seriously bind up and be very difficult to retrieve.

 

I haven't tried this, im just thinking aloud:thumbup:

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nice pics Reg, do you find that having the tether connected directly to your bridge ring inhibits your later movement?

 

It seems like it might when trying to limbwalk?

 

I haven't really noticed Cary, although I'm still swapping and changing. One of the main reasons for me hanging it that way is so I dont loose the dam thing....so many times I've thrown something down in bush or long grass without thinking only to have it vanish forever.

 

You really ought to share the mishap that you had right here on the forum....would hate to think of anyone taking things for granted and coming unstuck. FWiW I've always used a relatively thick, short cord for the VT, minimum 6 wraps....so while not as slick as some I at least know its going to grab at an instant.

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Just clip your throw line on to the running bow line and drop the bag and line out the tree. Just pull your thowline to get the rope back.

 

If your TIP is a running bowline you would have to pull a lot of rope though to have a working tail that reached the floor or a very short tail with the rest of the rope as the working side. This would mean you would have to hall all your rope with you! Is this what you do? The advantage of the Alpine Butterfly is you can make just enough length so you can still reach the ground but not have loads of excess rope to drag around and it's retrievable from the ground.

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