You never know when HSE are watching

[treebloke]

News: Workers put at risk - Manchester

[easy-lift guy]

Was it the opinion of the H-S official that they were working with gear that was unsafe or just working without scaffeling with out a plan etc.? I am sure that fine cut into the profit margin a bit!

elg

[doobin]

Good call by the HSE. Look at that bit of scaffold they're anchored too. No way you'd catch me up there like that.

[b101uk]

Seams to me it was a prosecution brought on the grounds of ifs what’s and maybes given a lack of testing of structuil integrity of what they were attached to.

 

Without load testing the “guard rail” integrity the HSE were in NO position really to bring a prosecution.

 

If you take the ifs what’s and maybes approach then using harness and ropes etc attached to a tree to ascend it etc as part of “work” that should bring the same prosecution!!!!!!!!

 

It seams the HSE should also be prosecuted for NOT giving adequate instruction to there officers on the dangers of falls from hight as you can bet “he” went near the drop without a harness etc to issue the prohibition!

[redmoosefaction]

At least it was a decent fine!

[Quickthorn]

 

Without load testing the “guard rail” integrity the HSE were in NO position really to bring a prosecution.

 

 

If the employer hadn't load tested the guard rail, how would they have known that it was safe? The first "test" would have been when one of the workers fell, and that's not good enough. Do you expect the HSE to only prosecute people once someone's been killed?

 

HSE were quite right to prosecute, in my opinion.

[Mesterh]

I wonder if the HSE could also prosecute a tree climber if they thought the TIP wasnt strong enough?

 

For all we know the guard rail could be stronger than the average TIP.

 

So who gets the £18,000 tax oops sorry fine then?

[tomtrees]

Do you load test a branch before ropping in ?

An eye in to the concreet would have been better though.

[skyhuck]

I wonder if the HSE could also prosecute a tree climber if they thought the TIP wasnt strong enough?

 

For all we know the guard rail could be stronger than the average TIP.

 

So who gets the £18,000 tax oops sorry fine then?

 

The TIP is not dictated by the employer, its down to the climber to chose one.

 

Unlike this case where the scaffold or lack off it was down to the employer.

[Mesterh]

The TIP is not dictated by the employer, its down to the climber to chose one.

 

Unlike this case where the scaffold or lack off it was down to the employer.

 

Ah yes, didnt think of that.

 

I suppose its the employer who gets it, no wonder more and more industries are moving to use subbies whenever and wherever they can.

 

Still though if an employer is on site and the TIP doesnt look strong enough he could possibly be done for not telling the employee to change it.

 

Pure speculation by me of course.