Sack em and keep work for myself?

[TREELINE]

Put it like this they dont give you 100% of the profit why should you be liable for 100% of the damage.

 

 

you don't put in the 100% to make the company run though so you shouldn't expect the profit. Wages are bad at this end of the country too.

[PeteB]

As a subbie, what is he not expected to cover if even damaged by accident. It's your money he's taking and it's your reputation!

[tree monkey]

Did you make more money on the job than the gutter?If so then let it go but i think it should be let known that its a one off and its not acceptable practice.If you let it pass totaly will they start getting sloppy in there attitude to good practice?then it will cost customers and money

[TREELINE]

As a subbie, what is he not expected to cover if even damaged by accident. It's your money he's taking and it's your reputation!

 

 

 

i like the sound of that, day off for em tomorrow then

[High Scale]

The Inland Revenue regards insurance as part of self employment.

 

A subby could be in danger of being "spoken to":thumbdown:

 

Inland what?

[TREELINE]

Did you make more money on the job than the gutter?If so then let it go but i think it should be let known that its a one off and its not acceptable practice.If you let it pass totaly will they start getting sloppy in there attitude to good practice?then it will cost customers and money

 

Cost nothing but the pride; i made em pay and sent them home for half day.

[Arborlord]

I agree treeline the easy part of running an arb biz is the work itself.

 

I just would not personally work for a contractor if they wanted to use my insurance.

 

But i do understand it from the other way round if a subbie crunched a bently id be pissed.

[MattyF]

mistakes can happen to the best climbers and property gets damaged...if they showed sighns of not giving a toss then id sack em but i know when ive had incidents in the past its probably hurt my pride more than a bosses rep... im quite feeling for guys having to climb in this windy bad weather of the last few days...had a big ash to take down yesterday with 5 phone wires an un sheathed electric wire a roof and two fences,and a well under it! ,and only a 10 ft sqaure drop zone...rigging it was like flying a kite(mostly in to the wires!) it really was a bloody mirricle we broke nothing....apart from the 357 my new groundy hid under the brush and i chucked a lump of timber on too!

[Tom D]

If I employ a subbie as I often do I expect to pay for anything they break, but If they do something stupid with my kit ( which happened recently) then that comes off their wage. I think you just have to employ people you can trust. I never leave subbies unsupervised as either me or Andrew my employee are always on site.

[Rupe]

A subbie should be someone that takes the job from you and does it for a fixed rate or percentage using their own groundie, kit, insurance etc. Then they pay for the damage.

 

If your getting in "subbie" climbers and sending them out with your groundies, kit etc then the damage is yours. Its a team effort and if part of the team are your employees they are responsible for what goes on.

 

Also the subbie shouldn't be under any pressure to get the job done in a certain time, if he's gettign a fixed price for a job thne its up to him to get it done, if he's on day rate but your tellign him to get a job done quickly or within a certain timescale then the damage to property is again yours.

 

IMO.