Self employed rates?

[tractorboy1]

And there-in lies the main problem of the UK arb industry, subby climbers doing work for employers who can't do it themselves.

 

Remember these employers are making a name for themselves on the back of your expertise and skills.

 

for employers - If you can't climb trees and do the work yourself then don't take the job on.

 

What a stupid comment

[Stephen Blair]

do you think a lawyers secratery should earn the same because she keeps his desk tidy and types out his big words?

[scotspine1]

What a stupid comment

 

 

 

tractorboy,

 

I subby climbed for over 8 years prior to starting my own company, I got first hand experience of how employers exploit a good climber's skills and experience, experienced climbers do not get paid enough,

 

now...........explain why that is stupid.

[Mike Hill]

tractorboy,

 

I subby climbed for over 8 years prior to starting my own company, I got first hand experience of how employers exploit a good climber's skills and experience, experienced climbers do not get paid enough,

 

now...........explain why that is stupid.

 

Well if the Climber is being exploited,then he goes and sets up for himself.

Or he is stupid.

And carries on for 8 years.

LOL.

[tractorboy1]

tractorboy,

 

I subby climbed for over 8 years prior to starting my own company, I got first hand experience of how employers exploit a good climber's skills and experience, experienced climbers do not get paid enough,

 

now...........explain why that is stupid.

 

Surly thats why people employ subby climbers to use their skills or as you call it exploit. I would agree that they don't get paid enough going buy this thread.

[gibbon]

Sunny climbing is a step on the route to being a boss. You just got to get on with the crap jobs until its your turn to employ someone else to do it

[scotspine1]

Well if the Climber is being exploited,then he goes and sets up for himself.

.

 

He would've had he be been paid properly by the employer. When you got bills,food and rent to pay...that comes first, after that there is nothing left to put towards starting a company.

 

People who run tree surgery companies and cannot do the work themselves or have never done the work should give it up and level the playing field for people with real skills.

 

I'm pretty sure you wouldn't take anything on you couldn't handle yourself Mike, if you felt you couldn't do the work then you...being an honest Kiwi would hand the job on to a someone more suited to the job.

[scotspine1]

Surly thats why people employ subby climbers to use their skills or as you call it exploit.

 

If a person can't do the work then why are they operating as a professional tree surgeon/tree care company?

 

Gibbon makes a fair point in that you need experience to become very good at climbing, but as soon as you start making the contractor serious amounts of cash on the back of your skills, its then when you have to charge more and it is then when the contractor should pay more, otherwise it cheapens the whole industry.

[Mike Hill]

If a person can't do the work then why are they operating as a professional tree surgeon/tree care company?

 

Gibbon makes a fair point in that you need experience to become very good at climbing, but as soon as you start making the contractor serious amounts of cash on the back of your skills, its then when you have to charge more and it is then when the contractor should pay more, otherwise it cheapens the whole industry.

 

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If a person can't do the work then why are they operating as a professional tree surgeon/tree care company?

 

Gibbon makes a fair point in that you need experience to become very good at climbing, but as soon as you start making the contractor serious amounts of cash on the back of your skills, its then when you have to charge more and it is then when the contractor should pay more, otherwise it cheapens the whole industry.

 

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