Lets see your Guns.

[peds]

26 minutes ago, openspaceman said:

Fenn mark 4

Yeah, they've got a few of those all right, and I got them a Goodnature 24, which I'm a big fan of. But I'm just looking at other avenues as well. Cheers though!

[Stubby]

1 hour ago, peds said:

What do you mean by a garden gun, boss?

 

 

They are small bore shot guns with brass cartridges . Usually 9mm but can be .410 or .360 or .22 . Its the spread he would need . If you think he could manage a pre charged air rifle , sitting at a bench with a bipod then I can recommend the Daystate Huntsman Revere . ( I have one ) . They can be sub 12flb or FAC rated . 

[peds]

Nice one, I'll look into that. Cheers Stubby. 

[skc101fc]

Hi Peds, if the old gent in question is with you in Ireland,  don't forget an air rifle or air pistol needs the same gun licencing as any other firearm. The rifled barrel is the bit they don't like. Until the last change in regulation it used to cost me 3 x as much to licence my grandads 70 yr old bsa airsporter air rifle compared to my 12bore shotgun. Pistols are definitely not looked on favourably over here. Something to do with history...

[peds]

Righto, no he's in the middle of England, no spoilsport Irish regulations to deal with! I guess that would make it a bit more of a hassle for me to take ownership of it when the inevitable arrives though, which I hadn't really considered... so thanks for that. 

[Rich Rule]

I’ve never used one of these.  But Rat is in the model name.

 

light and easy to wield.

 

Crosman 2250 Ratcatcher .22 Air Rifle with Scope - Just Air Guns

WWW.JUSTAIRGUNS.CO.UK

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Just Air Guns is the UK's best supplier for Crosman 2250 Ratcatcher .22 Air Rifle with Scope - take a look at the...

 

[Johnsond]

Did a one for one on my multi shot recently and sourced an  M3K. I had been reading up on them a fair bit and didn’t find much not to like. So far so good, does the job, cycles very quickly and smoothly, chunky oversized controls which should be good come the bad weather and a tough no hassle finish. 

[Stubby]

15 hours ago, Rich Rule said:

I’ve never used one of these.  But Rat is in the model name.

 

light and easy to wield.

 

Crosman 2250 Ratcatcher .22 Air Rifle with Scope - Just Air Guns

WWW.JUSTAIRGUNS.CO.UK

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Just Air Guns is the UK's best supplier for Crosman 2250 Ratcatcher .22 Air Rifle with Scope - take a look at the...

 

I think it will be a Co2 powered gun probably only around 8 ftlbs at the muzzle so somewhat less down range . You would have to hit the rat bang on the swede from close up to kill it and the scope probably wont zero down to the ten yards it would be affective at so you would have to piss about with " hold under " or shim one end of the scope to get a short range zero . 

[peds]

16 hours ago, Rich Rule said:

I’ve never used one of these.  But Rat is in the model name.

 

light and easy to wield.

 

Crosman 2250 Ratcatcher .22 Air Rifle with Scope - Just Air Guns

WWW.JUSTAIRGUNS.CO.UK

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Just Air Guns is the UK's best supplier for Crosman 2250 Ratcatcher .22 Air Rifle with Scope - take a look at the...

 

 

That looks like a great toy! Could be just the ticket, for reasons I'll explain in reply to Stubby below...

 

23 minutes ago, Stubby said:

I think it will be a Co2 powered gun probably only around 8 ftlbs at the muzzle so somewhat less down range . You would have to hit the rat bang on the swede from close up to kill it and the scope probably wont zero down to the ten yards it would be affective at so you would have to piss about with " hold under " or shim one end of the scope to get a short range zero . 

 

So we've actually got a few things working in our favour here... first, they are brazen little fellas, and range isn't an issue, you could stand indoors at the kitchen window and they'll just stroll across the patio not 4 metres in front of you. Sit on the patio instead and they'll probably run across your shoes. It's why I'm considering an airgun at all, honestly, they are a slow moving target at close range, definitely an easy task. If you miss you could probably just swing the gun around and beat it to death with the butt stock. It really wouldn't be used at any range greater than that, except for plinking by visiting grandkids. It'd be used indoors too, the shed, the garage, the summer house.

 

Secondly, getting a pellet right in the dome to ensure a quick kill might not be strictly necessary... as on one side of this patio is the hen run, where they get most of their diet! The hens, scary little dinosaurs that they are, like to hunt and eat the rats, they are hugely motivated for the extra protein. The chase can be a real skin-of-the-teeth affair at times, especially if the poor rat gets held up in the chicken wire fence... at the first sound of commotion, all the girls come running over to see what the story is. So a wounded rat from a poor shot is just as dead, after being ripped apart by half a dozen 12in tall velociraptors.

 

I'll get some pictures when I'm back in the UK to illustrate the scene, I've brought my folks over to Ireland for a couple of weeks for a visit, so the rats are probably having a whale of a time at the moment. 

[Johnsond]

It shouldn’t matter what you are shooting, the primary aim should always be for a clean quick kill. Even rats or other vermin deserve that level of respect. They will soon learn to be careful and harder to get a shot on. Me personally if I can’t with a high level of probability be sure I can achieve a clean single shot despatch then I’d not even think about pulling the trigger.