what is a split tale used for

[Mark J]

I learned 3 Knot, Prussic and Blakes hitch at college. Going to try a hitchclimber and some new hitches when me ankle mends.

[Matthew Burton]

You cant pass CS38 without demonstrating the 3 knot system, or at least I had to do it and its on the assessment criteria.

[testcricket01]

Agreed, but I think the 3 knot system should be taught before anything else.

 

on are college course i was taught 3 knot system then we was shown split tail and prussik and we found a favourite that worked for us and used that.

[j_allanson]

i'd like to know what college you went to? when i passed at bicton college in devon, the first thing they drilled into us was the '3 knot system' i thought that you had to tie this in your assessment before they let you off the ground!

 

in reference to your question i trust from the other messages people have sent you, that you now know what a split tail is . . . my opinion is that a prussik can be made from a 'odd' bit of rope that you have lying around (maybe old climbing rope) and this can be cut and tied into the desired size making the bridge the 'perfect' length. as for the friction hitch itself i think it is alot simpler and quicker to tie than the blacks-hitch, personal preferance though !

[ad15]

Get yourself down to one of the arbtalk get togethers, there will be more experienced climbers there and you'll learn loads.

 

you will learn loads,,, about beer, trumping and other things that can't be mentioned... stuff all about knots though..

[Dave D]

its a bit of an asumption to imply he doesnt know the three knot system just because he is asking what a split tale is. there is a big difference between tying 3 knots on one rope (essential criteria in cs38), and using a split tail with your main line to tie a similar system.

[Rupe]

Its crazy that in a 4 day course a person can be taught to climb AND rescue someone, yet still not know anything, but be "qualified".

 

There should be a climbing course, and then 6 months experience required before doing a rescue course and then, maybe then, a chainsaw in tree course.

 

New climbers would have to work with rescuers on the ground instead of newly qualified Cs 38/39's going out as qualified rescuers for existing climbers.

[Yorkshireman]

all i learned at college was the prussic method. when i first found this site and read some of the climbing threads, it was all gibberish!

 

i think the reasoning is that the students are taught to climb with the most basic methods, so they have a "foundation" of skills to build on when they leave. of course, i would have much prefered to have learned some more techniques from my college lecturers, than self taught from the internet!

 

maybe an overload of information and techniques at an early stage would result in more accidents, that might be why they dont teach some stuff?

 

From your web

tpo tree protection order ?? not sure if its a typo

[Yorkshireman]

all i learned at college was

 

maybe an overload of information and techniques at an early stage would result in more accidents, that might be why they dont teach some stuff?

 

From your web

tpo tree protection order ?? not sure if its a typo

[chris cnc]

From your web

tpo tree protection order ?? not sure if its a typo

 

oops

 

cheers for pointing that out, bit embarassing