Possible water shortage Leeds/Mossley

[Steven P]

Severn Trent water? Yes they don't rely on reservoirs as much - was in the news this morning - as Eggs is saying, but they haven't had a hose pipe ban for 30 years either.

[eggsarascal]

Try to hear this through.

 

Rudyard Lake at 'unprecedented' low level after dry spring - BBC News

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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The reservoir falls to about 30% of its capacity following one of the driest springs on record.

 

[daveatdave]

a lot of the reservoirs in this country are built on small rivers/streams and they have to let a certain amount of water out per minute downstream.

20-30 years ago, they built a pipe network round the country so they could move water around from reservoir to reservoir including Kielder what has happened to that    

[sime42]

On 18/07/2025 at 23:50, Oldfeller said:

but how would the process start, would you expect a government to implement it?

is there a party that could even carry out such a task?

or should we overthrow the establishment and seize control of the countries finances?

seriously though, I think those in charge have too much to lose to even consider such a move.

 

And therein lies the problem. We need a government with gumption, a government with balls and teeth. We've not had one of them for years. 

 

I'll try my hand at most things, but I'll draw the line at managing the countries financies. Happy to trust you with my tax if you fancy yourself though! I'll give you a two years trial period to produce some improvements. 

[Oldfeller]

7 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

And therein lies the problem. We need a government with gumption, a government with balls and teeth. We've not had one of them for years. 

 

I'll try my hand at most things, but I'll draw the line at managing the countries financies. Happy to trust you with my tax if you fancy yourself though! I'll give you a two years trial period to produce some improvements. 

100% with you on the government issue, I'm not sure the current clown knows what balls are,, or who has them

If I were given total control over the country it would make Vlad the Impaler look like Paulus the wood gnome.

once the sh1t has gone we can concentrate on cleaning up the bowl.

 

[Stubby]

1 hour ago, Oldfeller said:

100% with you on the government issue, I'm not sure the current clown knows what balls are,, or who has them

 

 

Didn't Fatima Whitbread have some ? 

[Steven P]

13 hours ago, daveatdave said:

a lot of the reservoirs in this country are built on small rivers/streams and they have to let a certain amount of water out per minute downstream.

20-30 years ago, they built a pipe network round the country so they could move water around from reservoir to reservoir including Kielder what has happened to that    

 

Unless it has changed, Kielder flows into the Tyne and there is a pipe from there to the Tees, but I am not sure if it is connected into a wider system so that for example Kielder water can get to the south coast (It was designed to supply industrial Teesside which on completion went into decline and demand for water dropped... but the infrastructure was built by then). There was a pipeline I think Tees and south deigned but not sure if that was ever built.

[Mark J]

3 hours ago, Stubby said:

Didn't Fatima Whitbread have some ? 

Ha ha, "Hairs on her chest all the way down to her balls".

[sime42]

7 hours ago, Oldfeller said:

100% with you on the government issue, I'm not sure the current clown knows what balls are,, or who has them

If I were given total control over the country it would make Vlad the Impaler look like Paulus the wood gnome.

once the sh1t has gone we can concentrate on cleaning up the bowl.

 

 

Yeah, Starmer hasn't a clue. Trying to be all things to all people ain't working. To be fair though, the Great British Energy idea is a good one. If it can be made to work. Energy independence, sovereignty over our energy infrastructure has to be a priority. It's Critical Infrastructure just like water. Why the hell have we let French, Chinese, Russian, and who knows what other countries companies control it? No wonder prices have gone crazy. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Steven P]

Probably have a point with Great British Energy, it is too expensive I reckon for the government to buy back the utilities, so have to do something else.

 

I reckon the only option is a start up and build market share. Can do that with electricity or gas sales, would be just like E.On, UU or Scottish Power, each with an electrical generation division and an electrical / gas retail division. Gas and Electrical transmission would be trickier (big gas pipes and electrical pylons) - they are owned by National Grid and the 'space' the electricity or gas used is 'rented' from them by the retail brands. I believe National Grid charges are kind of set though (they are a monopoly), but you cannot just build a parallel system. Can do the same with BT as well - set up a Great British Phone Company.

 

No reason Great British (whatever) cannot be operated along the lines as they are now, requiring a profit to return to the shareholders and maintaining a minimum standard - the shareholder is the government, all profits could be used to improve our lot or tax reductions (for the very wealthy of course - don't want to get carried away).

 

Can't do that with water though, they were sold off differently - the water companies own the pipes and the systems (which is why we cannot change water suppliers), only thing to do there is a buy back.