Possible water shortage Leeds/Mossley

[sime42]

4 hours ago, Steven P said:

 

Suspect the finances arn't there for that, any tax rise to pay for nationalising - to buy it back again - would be met with tears.

 

Railways are slightly different, nothing to buy back at the end of a rail franchise, just take it onboard but Tories sold off critical utilities wholesale - there is no cheap option - buy out the shareholders, or take them on with the debts if they go bankrupt, lands the UK with a massive bill either way.

 

 

Tax rises to pay for nationalising wouldn't be met with my tears certainly. That's the kind of stuff we pay tax for, there's scarcely anything more important to life than water. If it works for Holland there's no reason it shouldn't work for us. 

 

 

[Oldfeller]

26 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

Tax rises to pay for nationalising wouldn't be met with my tears certainly. That's the kind of stuff we pay tax for, there's scarcely anything more important to life than water. If it works for Holland there's no reason it shouldn't work for us. 

 

 

The same problem arises as it always does, as soon as more money is made available so the bloodsuckers take more from the host and not much in service improvements are noticed.

[sime42]

Whilst I take a break from today's particularly grueling Wordle..............

 

Obviously that would happen if we sold it to another private company, they're parasites as you say. I wasn't suggesting that though. Critical infrastructure is just that, critical. We shouldn't be letting bloodsuckers anywhere near it. 

 

If other more civilised countries can make it work why can't we? 

 

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[Oldfeller]

8 minutes ago, sime42 said:

Whilst I take a break from today's particularly grueling Wordle..............

 

Obviously that would happen if we sold it to another private company, they're parasites as you say. I wasn't suggesting that though. Critical infrastructure is just that, critical. We shouldn't be letting bloodsuckers anywhere near it. 

 

If other more civilised countries can make it work why can't we? 

 

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Ok, you have a valid point, how would we as the public proceed to enable that to take place, 'cos I'll wager all those fat cats ain't gonna give it up without a fight.

[sime42]

Of course they aren't. It'll involve some pain unfortunately. Of the tax variety probably, as Stephen P noted above. Got to be worth it though. Personally I far rather pay more tax for a decent water supply and clean rivers and seas. Better than paying over the odds for some foreign owned bloodsucking scumbag company to dump shit in our rivers and seas and piss the clean water away into the ground with leaks. Alternatively, maybe the government could stop wasting money on expensive crap like HS2 and fcking AI data centres. Whilst simultaneously having the courage to tax the disgustingly rich elites and American big tech firms. 

 

 

[Oldfeller]

18 minutes ago, sime42 said:

Of course they aren't. It'll involve some pain unfortunately. Of the tax variety probably, as Stephen P noted above. Got to be worth it though. Personally I far rather pay more tax for a decent water supply and clean rivers and seas. Better than paying over the odds for some foreign owned bloodsucking scumbag company to dump shit in our rivers and seas and piss the clean water away into the ground with leaks. Alternatively, maybe the government could stop wasting money on expensive crap like HS2 and fcking AI data centres. Whilst simultaneously having the courage to tax the disgustingly rich elites and American big tech firms. 

 

 

but how would the process start, would you expect a government to implement it?

is there a party that could even carry out such a task?

or should we overthrow the establishment and seize control of the countries finances?

seriously though, I think those in charge have too much to lose to even consider such a move.

[monkeybusiness]

On 13/07/2025 at 12:47, eggsarascal said:

This is why tankers are running water into Stoke.

 

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Why aren’t they dredging the life out of it whilst it’s empty ffs?! Increase capacity without upsetting the enviro-huggers. It would be a fast, cheap and easy way of bolstering short-term storage.

[AHPP]

9 hours ago, monkeybusiness said:

Why aren’t they dredging the life out of it whilst it’s empty ffs?! Increase capacity without upsetting the enviro-huggers. It would be a fast, cheap and easy way of bolstering short-term storage.

 

Good point. 

[GarethM]

5 minutes ago, AHPP said:

Good point. 

So where are they going to put the million upon million tonnes of silt, it's not usable as sand as it's particle size is too small.

 

From what I've been told over the years it's barely even usable as infill unless you wanted to fill up a disused mine as it becomes quicksand when wet bit like the banks of the Humber.

[Steven P]

The silt will only be what, 1/2m to 1m deep? after that you are back to the old surface level so I guess if you can do something with the silt, dig through it you can increase capacity using what was the old surface level.... but cost and rewards... a few million deepening / widening a reservoir could be spent repairing leaks, not sure which would have the bigger success. Dredging of course can only go as far as the exit pipes from the dam else is useless