Greater payload

[Rich Rule]

I remember about 20 years ago got pulled in the South Circular driving a VW tipper truck.  Greedy boards, packed to the top with wood chip then ton bags with rakings and ladders ratchet strapped to the top.  Wood chip flowing everywhere,

 

They did us for an indicator out on the chipper. 

Made us detach the chipper and wait for the boss to turn up with a bulb change and we weee free to go.  I don’t recall getting a fine and I definitely didn’t get any points.

 

Very lucky really.

[scbk]

40 minutes ago, AHPP said:

3.5t car transporter beavertail that can carry a loader/towed chipper/ tracked chipper/spare car/big wood.

3.5t tipper trailer for chip and wood mainly but whatever else when convenient too.

 

That's what I keep coming back to as the holy grail (for big jobs with small kit anyway). Fight me, Mick.

No doubt the axle weights make this one a poor example, but I've always liked the idea of these low floor plant trucks

 

 

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[AHPP]

2 minutes ago, Rich Rule said:

I remember about 20 years ago got pulled in the South Circular driving a VW tipper truck.  Greedy boards, packed to the top with wood chip then ton bags with rakings and ladders ratchet strapped to the top.  Wood chip flowing everywhere,

 

They did us for an indicator out on the chipper. 

Made us detach the chipper and wait for the boss to turn up with a bulb change and we weee free to go.  I don’t recall getting a fine and I definitely didn’t get any points.

 

Very lucky really.

 

Been there. 2010 or so, doing laps of a roundabout in Durham, trying to read a self-printed map by headtorch, drink having been taken. Usual unpleasantaries but kept quiet and a left with only a bit of paperwork to fix a brake/indicator bulb and show an MOT station I had. Could have been worse.

 

The south circular doesn't exist btw. I believe the rest of the story though.

[Rich Rule]

The South Circular does exist. 
 

It is officially known as the A205.  Locals have always called it the South Circular.

 

I guess Google also must have been from South London.

 

[AHPP]

Another amusing (and in this case incredulously committed) driving offence. Think, where have you ever seen this sign in the UK?

 

 

Not often. I'd in fact never seen it until I saw it as I turned down a perfectly ordinary looking road in the suburbs of Lincoln in a Volvo S40 full of commercial fireworks and RDX. Me and my mate just looked at each other and wet ourselves. What are the bloody odds.

 

For any infrequent forum visitors who came here via a keyword flag, it was all above board. Go back to checking twitter for male pregnancy deniers.

[AHPP]

17 minutes ago, scbk said:

No doubt the axle weights make this one a poor example, but I've always liked the idea of these low floor plant trucks

 

 

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Even better!

[AHPP]

6 minutes ago, Rich Rule said:

The South Circular does exist. 
 

It is officially known as the A205.  Locals have always called it the South Circular.

 

I guess Google also must have been from South London.

 

 

Rubbish. It's full of roundabouts with little pubs on corners. The north circular is a fack off motorway on flyovers etc.

[aspenarb]

On 19/03/2025 at 14:45, Steve Bullman said:

Just to add, payload isn’t really the biggest issue, weight distribution is what will catch you out 

 

Quite right Steve, mentioned this before on here. I know of a lad with cab over engine type truck, small roller shutter tool box behind that with a high sided tipper body, he was pulled at Leatherhead for looking overweight, all he had in the back was grass cuttings with a flymow thrown on top, virtually nothing in the back and he had to send his passenger home in a taxi because the front axle was overweight.

Once you get to around 20% overloaded you stand a good chance of winning three points and a fine, most Transiteers are running in excess of100% overloaded.

 

Bob

 

[parkertrees]

Our 7 ton Iveco Daily weighs just under 4 ton with chipper (bandit 75), tools on and 3 blokes in the cab. Fully loaded with wet conifer chip it sits just about 7 ton. That's with a very strongly built aluminium plank and steel framed body, plus a separate toolbox. So it can carry 3 ton of woodchip in its 11.3 cubic meter body.

 

From this one can work out that most 3.5 tonners are weighing (at least) 50% more than they should when heading to the tip. This is all fine until something happens....

 

A good mate of mine was in a collision the other day with a pedestrian who ran out in front of him for a bus.... the pedestrian sadly died at the scene. He wasn't speeding, overweight, on his phone or otherwise breaking the rules. The police have his pickup truck however, as its evidence in an upcoming hearing. Multiple witnesses say the pedestrian didn't look, and it wasn't my mates fault, but he's understandably distraught.

 

This really reaffirmed my position on this subject.

 

Now imagine you were in a transit tipper freighted with conifer. Speeding or not, even though the pedestrian literally ran out at the last minute and the collision was unavoidable, your looking at death by dangerous driving/manslaughter charges.

 

For me the paperwork etc to run an HGV really is worth it. The trucks are easier to find in good condition due to the more stringent MOT etc. They're better vehicles all round, pull more, handle weight better, tougher running gear etc.

 

The only down side is a bit more paperwork, and having to put your lads through their test. I mainly drive the truck, and if we take multiple vehicles, then my lad drives my 4x4 towing the Ifor or Arb digger, so i haven't bothered with this part anyway. 

 

Anyway, essay over... but food for thought! 

 

 

[Peter 1955]

4 hours ago, aspenarb said:

 

Quite right Steve, mentioned this before on here. I know of a lad with cab over engine type truck, small roller shutter tool box behind that with a high sided tipper body, he was pulled at Leatherhead for looking overweight, all he had in the back was grass cuttings with a flymow thrown on top, virtually nothing in the back and he had to send his passenger home in a taxi because the front axle was overweight.

Once you get to around 20% overloaded you stand a good chance of winning three points and a fine, most Transiteers are running in excess of100% overloaded.

 

Bob

 

I was told of a goods vehicle that left its yard legally in the morning, tipped part of its load, and was then over on an axle, despite having less weight on board.