Climbing accident, Northwich, Cheshire

[AHPP]

Two secs. Let me get Jennifer Lopez on the phone and see how she would've got it down.

[Haironyourchest]

10 hours ago, Domino said:

Yep, but didn't a climbing accident occur?? Hence they weren't using it? 

Far too many variables and it's all totally unknown what went on to me. The only further comment I'd make is a tractor or similar of suitable size (with a winch, as trees that are upright should not really be just pulled by an machine) for mechanically aided felling is normally employed for pulling trees into open land/fields away from the highway.  This being the most cost effective method for removing multiple large trees near highways. 

A failed tree that is looming over the highway is more complex and requires very careful dismantling...in my opinion.  

 

Aye, this one was against the clock though, rush hour was approaching. Or so the rumor goes..

[Peasgood]

1 hour ago, Haironyourchest said:

 

Aye, this one was against the clock though, rush hour was approaching. Or so the rumor goes..

Since when has that bothered them?

Knowing the road, if it was rush hour the traffic would be mostly going the other way on the very seperate part of the dual carriageway. That's assuming it was pm rush hour rather than am but they never seem bothered in the slightest about such things anyway.

[Ledburyjosh]

22 hours ago, openspaceman said:

technically the force should be stated in Newtons but most people understand weights so the force a 2500kg mass hanging on the rope would be 2500*9.81 Newtons. You could hang a 5.3 tonne weight off the Novoleen rope sold for the Eder before it would break if new. In the 6 years I have used mine the rope has shortened mostly from wear of the outer braid, It started at 100m and is now around 50m and I have made soft shackles from the inner braid left overs. It has been by far the biggest cost of running the winch.

I still have mine at 100m. The outer does not seem to wear well.

I now save that rope for when range is required and mostly use 14mm sirius which is a much more disposable in terms of price.

So on taller trees I typically base tie a 50m length of sirius then connect that to the expensive 100m line. That was its the cheaper line getting beaten up as the tree falls in it and gets dragged out.

[openspaceman]

53 minutes ago, Ledburyjosh said:

I still have mine at 100m. The outer does not seem to wear well.

I now save that rope for when range is required and mostly use 14mm sirius which is a much more disposable in terms of price.

So on taller trees I typically base tie a 50m length of sirius then connect that to the expensive 100m line. That was its the cheaper line getting beaten up as the tree falls in it and gets dragged out.

Very sensible. I don't have much to do with climbing ropes but should have done the same.

 

I had hoped it would be possible to splice a new novoleen 50m onto the unused end of mine, Youtube videos seem to show the possibility but probably beyond my capability.

 

Also there is noticeable wear on the capstan which is probably from muddy rope.

[Mr. Squirrel]

On 24/03/2025 at 19:11, Ledburyjosh said:

I still have mine at 100m. The outer does not seem to wear well.

I now save that rope for when range is required and mostly use 14mm sirius which is a much more disposable in terms of price.

So on taller trees I typically base tie a 50m length of sirius then connect that to the expensive 100m line. That was its the cheaper line getting beaten up as the tree falls in it and gets dragged out.

Exercise caution doing that, you’re creating week points mid line, and obviously the 14mm Sirius is significantly weaker. 
As for the novoleen, also have 100m which has taken a fair thrashing. I’ve been pretty happy with it though and would say it’s comfortably paid for itself. Most significant damage to it came from the Eder winch itself, a sharp edge, stupidly. In future I’d buy something a bit higher spec though. 

[Bolt]

On 21/03/2025 at 17:12, kram said:

 

Guess where those fines go? Hint, its not to the injured party, not the NHS who saved his life. HSE get it.

 

@kram What on earth makes you think this?

[kram]

Am I wrong? Are you suggesting it goes to the NHS or the injured persons?

It is stated in the HSE docs that it goes to them to fund further HSE enforcement/action. Should be on their website.

 

[Bolt]

44 minutes ago, kram said:

Am I wrong? Are you suggesting it goes to the NHS or the injured persons?

It is stated in the HSE docs that it goes to them to fund further HSE enforcement/action. Should be on their website.

 

Am I wrong? Yes

 

Are you suggesting it goes to the NHS or the injured persons? No

 

It is stated in the HSE docs that it goes to them to fund further HSE enforcement/action. Should be on their website. Don’t think so.

 

I think you may be getting a criminal prosecution mixed up with a civil claim.

 

The HSE doesn’t fine you,  they would present a case against you, but you would be prosecuted by a judge or magistrate at a criminal court.  If found guilty, the judge / magistrate would decide If a fine was appropriate, and decide how much.  The money goes to the Treasury.

[krummholz]

https://press.hse.gov.uk/2025/05/07/school-trust-fined-after-member-of-public-hit-by-falling-tree-branch/