Your ariel rescue turns up with no climbing kit

[Haironyourchest]

The reality of time delay ("forever") makes a case for a "cheap" drill powered ascender and a dedicated rescue line. Just to facilitate getting the other guy in the crown in a timely manner. 

[Mark Bolam]

Who is paying for that then?

 

And an eagle-eyed rescuer already harnessed up?

 

I’m all for competent rescue available for big takedowns, but for 90% of our work it’s bullshit.

[Mike Hill]

44 minutes ago, Mark Bolam said:

Who is paying for that then?

 

And an eagle-eyed rescuer already harnessed up?

 

I’m all for competent rescue available for big takedowns, but for 90% of our work it’s bullshit.

If you think you need a rescue climber,should you really be climbing in the first place?

 

 

[Stubby]

8 hours ago, Mike Hill said:

If you think you need a rescue climber,should you really be climbing in the first place?

 

 

I suppose its when don't think you need one that you might ?

[Mick Dempsey]

I can see it now, I’m pinned up a giant poplar, struggling for breath..

My groundy shouts up ‘I’m coming up to perform an ariel rescue, hold on!’

Me (gasping for breath) ‘stay down there until you learn how to spell it you imbecile! It’s AERIAL’

 

 

 

[AHPP]

Been waiting days for that post. Sure as the sunrise, that’s what they say about Mick Dempsey. 

[Mick Dempsey]

I held on as long as I could, I’m only human.

[krummholz]

Often having a nominated rescue climber and nominal rescue kit is a box ticking exercise, and this guy can't be bothered to tick it? How confident are you that he could rescue you if he did have the kit with him?

 

Yes, self rescue is the quickest and most likely way down from an accident, but there's just not a binary of "major trauma= good as dead, no point in rescuing / minor trauma = they'll self rescue". As a first aider and rescue climber you are there to give the casualty the best chance of a full recovery. The "Golden Hour" to administer first aid should me more than enough time for a rescue from someone prepared and competent.

 

It would be a shame if your last thoughts as you were losing consciousness were "At least Old Bill doesn't think I'm a primadonna"...

[Mike Hill]

10 minutes ago, krummholz said:

Often having a nominated rescue climber and nominal rescue kit is a box ticking exercise, and this guy can't be bothered to tick it? How confident are you that he could rescue you if he did have the kit with him?

 

Yes, self rescue is the quickest and most likely way down from an accident, but there's just not a binary of "major trauma= good as dead, no point in rescuing / minor trauma = they'll self rescue". As a first aider and rescue climber you are there to give the casualty the best chance of a full recovery. The "Golden Hour" to administer first aid should me more than enough time for a rescue from someone prepared and competent.

 

It would be a shame if your last thoughts as you were losing consciousness were "At least Old Bill doesn't think I'm a primadonna"...

Straight up mate,you sound like half the problem in this industry. 

 

Over-thinking ,inexperienced, over equipment climbers trying to find reasons not to get the job done.

 

The likelihood of injuring yourself aloft,to such an extent as you cannot self rescue is vanishingly low. So low in fact that refusing a job on the basis of there not being a rescue climber onsite is pretty pathetic. 

 

 

 

 

[krummholz]

6 minutes ago, Mike Hill said:

Straight up mate,you sound like half the problem in this industry. 

 

Over-thinking ,inexperienced, over equipment climbers trying to find reasons not to get the job done.

 

The likelihood of injuring yourself aloft,to such an extent as you cannot self rescue is vanishingly low. So low in fact that refusing a job on the basis of there not being a rescue climber onsite is pretty pathetic. 

 

 

 

 

 

Fair enough - straight up you sound like the other half of the problem in this industry.

 

You have no idea of my level of experience, and experience doesn't always mean you make good decisions.

 

People wonder why we're under paid and under appreciated when the bar is set so low