Break In - Edinburgh

[Rich Rule]

10 hours ago, monkeybusiness said:

For a manufacturer it would be a very cheap and minor addition to include telematics within a machine control unit - even if the data was only accessible to the manufacturer themselves (to be released to relevant parties in the event of theft) it would make shifting stolen kit on much harder. 
It doesn’t help with the sale of replacement machines following theft though, so won’t ever gain traction. Even though it would be a very powerful USP as far as I’m concerned (as a buyer). 

I agree.  It shouldn’t be too hard but it h fortunately isn’t in their interests.

 

See my post a few up.

[scbk]

I wonder how many existing trackers will, or have already, stopped working, with the switch off of 3g?

[Steven P]

apparently 2G is staying on because a lot of smart meters use that - with luck the trackers will if all they need is SMS

[GarethM]

2G is currently staying more due to the police/fire and ambulance system having major setbacks and its not 4G or 5G.

 

They've just thrown a huge chunk of money at BT/EE to get it moving, but they're like 15+ years behind.

 

It will get shut down as they want 5G to take over.

[scbk]

"Unlike our 3G network, we won’t be turning 2G off completely. In fact, we expect to continue operating it for several years and it will play an important role in carrying emergency calls in more remote areas without 4G coverage. We’ll also use it to support data traffic for smart energy meters"

 

I don't know the technical details, but sounds like 2g will only be able to be used for smart meter data and emergency calls?

I was told by tesco mobile/O2 you'll no longer be able to send or receive texts.

[Steven P]

You should still be able to phone and text (the message I had from O2 was very vague, not specifically saying phones and texting will stop, suggesting it won't be as good at 2G as it was at 3G)... though expected to be turned off in the 2030s.

 

Newer trackers should work on newer systems - 4G and 5G

[doobin]

Never mind the trackers. What alarm system was used at the yard?

[Doug Tait]

Won't go into any detail about security given that it's not just good people reading this. There are multiple cameras and the police got all the relevant footage, but it's obvious we can do some things better and improvements have been made.

[doobin]

On 28/12/2024 at 08:20, Doug Tait said:

Won't go into any detail about security given that it's not just good people reading this. There are multiple cameras and the police got all the relevant footage, but it's obvious we can do some things better and improvements have been made.

Alarms. Alarms, alarms, alarms. Layered security- have an alarm trigger a massive siren and and even bigger floodlight. Cameras are f all use except to check whether an alarm is false or not. Footage of the theft in progess will lead to a conviction in probably 1 in 100 cases.

 

Check out the Ajax system. Very modular and can be built up into a great package for any type of premises.

[peds]

It's tempting (and ultimately inevitable) to steer the conversation towards booby traps (what was one of the more unrealistic suggestions last time? An electrified pyracantha hedge?), which are of course illegal and would only open you to a world of difficulties; but I suddenly recall the endless hours of footage of fire suppression systems being set off by overenthusiastic cooks at public-facing grills (Korean BBQ, hibachi, pierrade, that sort of thing), covering the whole room with the black, oozing, stagnant water that's been sitting in the sprinklers since they were installed, never cycled, never tested. I wonder if your fire prevention controls could be wired into the burglar alarm, like the lights and sirens, and the sprinklers hooked up to a watersource stained with a food-safe blue dye. 

 

Would make things a little more stressful for the ne'er-do-wells who set it off, and more amusing for anyone watching it on camera. 

 

Definitely not a booby trap either, so you'd get away with it.