Climbing rope diameter and tennis elbow

[Rich Rule]

Those gloves are crap Bill.

 

Get some decent grippers and it will work wonders.

 

Also, never wrap a rope around anything you are not prepared to lose.

 

 

[peds]

59 minutes ago, Rich Rule said:

Also, never wrap a rope around anything you are not prepared to lose.

 

Oh come on, it's generally a good rule of thumb to live by, but unless you've got a dunce of an incredibly heavy groundie practising his bellringing at that exact moment, pulling half a twist of your downstream climbing line around your hand for extra grip isn't going to end in catastrophe. 

I generally do it if foot placement is suboptimal. 

[Rich Rule]

Each to their own mate.  You want to grab and wrap around your wrist/arm go ahead.

 

Personally it slows you down having to reset every time.  Also makes you look like an amateur.  There are better ways to climb that are more ergonomic and therefore better for your body.  I am assuming this would be for body thrusting type of technique.  I would find it hard to wrap your arm if you were climbing in a Vt, zigzag or any other hand over hand style technique.

 

Ill just wear a decent pair of gripper gloves and climb away.  I have never understood how someone can do this job professionally and not have decent grip and arm strength.

 

I am probably 85kg in me pants.  Stick PPE and kit on and it will be over 100kg.  Will I ever need to wrap a rope around my arm? absolutely not.  I climb SRT and use a pantin along with decent gloves.

 

It is a decent rule to remember 

[Mark Bolam]

As Rich says, if you’re relying on grip strength that much you need to sort your technique out, fast.

 

I climbed like that a quarter of a century ago.

I’m embarrassed even thinking about it now.

[AHPP]

There are two, overlapping arguments here:

 

1. If you're going to hip thrust, do or don't wrap your hand. I haven't got a problem with it. It'll reduce grip fatigue and the chance of getting caught is low (unlike rigging, where hand wrapping really is dangerous).

 

BUT

 

2. You shouldn't be hip thrusting. It's hard as hell and foot ascenders are cheap as hell. They're not even life support so you could buy a chinese one if you really wanted to save a tenner.

Edited Sunday at 20:32 by AHPP

[Dan Maynard]

I got put on to Showa 310s by one of my climbing examiners, who was old and wise. Little more expensive but last much longer.

[billpierce]

What grippy gloves you reccomend then?

[AHPP]

Playing devil's advocate, you could even say wrapping you hand under a zigzag is safer. When the links shatter, at least you'll be stuck up the tree with your hand hurting like hell as opposed to on the floor with your spine hurting like hell.

Edited Sunday at 20:26 by AHPP

[Dan Maynard]

I've ordered one of these bars and keep watching videos about what to do, but can't report any improvement yet.

 

This lady deserves a prize for doing all the stability exercises with a straight face.

 

https://youtu.be/4vk3i22z3Ko?si=j8d2Sm9mr3ETpU70

[Rich Rule]

I used to buy them by the box of 100.  Grey cotton gloves but with a blue latex dip on the palm.

 

Sorry I cannot remember the brand but they worked out at about 23p a pair.  I bought a box before I moved to Norway in 2017 and only ran out last year.  
 

I think it was @steve bullman who put me onto them.

 

The Showa ones are pretty good.

 

I do wear the pfanner ice grip over here in the winter and are a lot more grippier than the thin ones they do.