MS400.1

[tree-fancier123]

for tree work in gardens maybe saw longevity is key to increased profits, but for someone in forestry doing several big felling cuts a day most weeks a lighter saw may be worth paying say £1000 a year for in depreciation. Chiropractors aren't cheap either.

[openspaceman]

3 hours ago, tree-fancier123 said:

for tree work in gardens maybe saw longevity is key to increased profits, but for someone in forestry doing several big felling cuts a day most weeks a lighter saw may be worth paying say £1000 a year for in depreciation. Chiropractors aren't cheap either.

That's my view, waving 400g less about all day 250 days a year is worth replacing the saw every year.

Mind I don't know how much motor manual timber harvesting is done nowadays, since harvesters crashed the price such that manual work is not competitive even if given wood.

[Muddy42]

It depends!

 

If I was to spend over a grand on a saw Id expect it to last more than ten years and to always have a resale value. I might use my 50cc saws all day, but the bigger ones only get used for a few cuts and are only carried from the truck, so I really don't care about the weight.

[openspaceman]

30 minutes ago, Muddy42 said:

It depends!

 

If I was to spend over a grand on a saw Id expect it to last more than ten years and to always have a resale value. I might use my 50cc saws all day, but the bigger ones only get used for a few cuts and are only carried from the truck, so I really don't care about the weight.

Yes . I still have 3 bigger saws that seldom got used, I can barely heft the 084 above my waist, still comes out occasionally and well over 30 years old. It has probably run less than 100 hours whereas the 60cc saws probably did 1000 hours/annum

[Dan Maynard]

I've got a saw that's half a kilo heavier than my 400 and will last longer, it says 461 on the side.

 

Rather take the 400 up a tree any day though.

[Mark Bolam]

I’m 100% positive I couldn’t notice the difference.

A full tank of fuel weighs 600g, and I can’t tell if a saw is full or empty by picking it up.

 

Don’t get me wrong, I’m a big fan of lighter saws.

I just feel that a lot of the weight-saving is done to the detriment of the lifespan of the saw.

 

It’s like modern trucks, squeezing the pips out of titchy little engines, at the expense of longevity.

[maybelateron]

I am finding Rough Cutter's post are attracting my interest.

[Gordon S]

25 minutes ago, maybelateron said:

I am finding Rough Cutter's post are attracting my interest.

Are you implying it has a Mountain Man vibe?

[Rough Cutter]

33 minutes ago, maybelateron said:

I am finding Rough Cutter's post are attracting my interest.

Well you are obviously seeing sense with regards to buying a husquvarna saw.

Smashing through the woods with a Stihl wacking rodies and thinning is bad news.

A light fast husky is definitely the way forward and generally better than most saws available (other makes can be searched online)

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[Grassyass]

I find the 400 to be a good saw I find I use it instead of a 261 , ok it might weigh more but you get through the cut quicker , From what I’ve seen of the 400.1 all the changes seem to be cost saving  rather than improvements .