How long have we urban dwellers got?

[oakandmaple]

Back to the wood burner topic, I met an oncology consultant a month back who specialises in lung cancer.
She said that there’s been a rapid rise in recent times in people (especially females) in their forties getting lung cancer who have never smoked.
She said the consensus assumption is that it’s down to the rise in wood burning stoves given other forms of smoke have dropped in their life time, but it didn’t sound like convincing research had been done yet.

 

[openspaceman]

14 minutes ago, oakandmaple said:

Back to the wood burner topic, I met an oncology consultant a month back who specialises in lung cancer.
She said that there’s been a rapid rise in recent times in people (especially females) in their forties getting lung cancer who have never smoked.

Famously the entertainer Roy Castle was devastated that he had lung cancer yet never smoked but he played in clubs and venues where he was subjected to tobacco smoke. His foundation campaigned for the smoking in public places ban which came into effect ten years after his death.

 

Roy Castle Lung Cancer Foundation – The UK's only charity solely dedicated to supporting everyone affected by lung cancer

ROYCASTLE.ORG

 

Lung cancer incidence statistics

WWW.CANCERRESEARCHUK.ORG

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The latest lung cancer incidence statistics for the UK for Health Professionals. See data for sex, age, trends over time and more.

 This does not yet indicate and increase in lung cancer in women of that age group

[GarethM]

So why isn't there a similar correlation between male and female of the same age?.

 

I would be tempted to highlight, excessive makeup & cosmetics usage. Especially with these catfish/influencers and the hours they spend. It's all ultra fine aerosol sized, even if it's clay it can't be good.

 

Plus as a 40 year old, my recollections of people smoking was it was mostly girls around teenage years especially in huddled groups.

Edited March 8, 2023 by GarethM

[sime42]

Excessive household cleaning products?

[GarethM]

The news story in the USA keeps raising it's heat about gas hobs & cookers.

 

Not sure if that's expressly just the burning of gas as I doubt they've tested electric hobs and the cooking of food and fats.

 

In the USA they predominantly don't use electric kettles, mostly due to the 110v outlet power limitations taking a dogs age to boil water.

[Capetown]

Smoke Control Area Interactive Map

UK-AIR.DEFRA.GOV.UK

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Air Quality Compliance Interactive Map. This interactive application allows you to explore air quality compliance data.

My local town showing the smoke control areas. Interesting that the later neighbourhoods are not included. You can choose your own area to see if you are in a zone or not!

[waterbuoy]

If you are outside a smoke-controlled area does that mean you can still have a good old bonfire?  Hope so as we have four trees to take down in my parents garden soon!

[GarethM]

Smoke control zones don't ban outside burning, no hard or fast rules but generally they don't mind a few times a year domestic garden wise.

[waterbuoy]

Thanks

[Steven P]

On 08/03/2023 at 16:09, GarethM said:

Smoke control zones don't ban outside burning, no hard or fast rules but generally they don't mind a few times a year domestic garden wise.

 

 

Yuo, can burn all sorts in the garden, green wood straight off a tree, smouldering leaves for hours, the only come back from that is the neighbours.

 

Put a log at 21% moisture content on an inside log burner and it is off to the gallows with you.

 

 

I'm not a statistician but I bet you need to look at a lot of variables to get an answer for lung problems and their causes, and I bet that there is no single cause either. I don't think the scale of the media interest is in proportion to the problems caused by wood burners