What is problem here??

[drinksloe]

Like i've said previously and others ur insurance will be over the moon taking money of u year after year with no claims.

The instant u have an accident and want to claim i'd be absolutely amazed if they pay out when u are not deemed a 'competant' person.

I'm actually surprsised many landowners let u on now, without showing some competancy purely for their own liability/insurance

 

By the time u've bought some of the gadets u have that aren't needed would of paid a fair bit to training

 

U don't have to speak to many folk who work in forestry or arb to hear of a few near misses or horror stories.

So dangling up a tree with a saw and no escape routes, esp when ur not familar with how different timbers behave as ur cutting

 

If i was in ur shoes i'd tell the land owner to stick his hand in his pocket and hire a cherry picker for 1 wknd and blitz all these dodgy trees.

I hope i am wong, and mibee at ur age u will be more sensible than me when i 1st started climbing

U are asking for trouble, don't get me wrong i've taken and still take risks but i balance them with my training and experience and i also know when to walk away and get someone else in or more heavy/specialised machinery

 

While i may not consider myself a good climber i am safe, if slow, but have climbed and watched some very good climbers which u can learn a lot from, and i have done a few tricky takedowns too, althou they have taken me a while, But end of day i'm safe and no damage done, which is all that matters really at end of day.

As said i'm generally against a lot of modern training but i have to admit all the chainsaw courses i've done have been well worth it, and i have learn a lot esp on the basic 1's as i never knew how little i knew despite being around saws for years

Edited March 21, 2022 by drinksloe

[Stubby]

8 hours ago, john87 said:

Yes, i know what you are all saying about training, and yes, ideally it would be great, but i only do this sort of thing once in a while for fun basically. It would be like me telling you lot to go pay out to get a class one HGV to drive your caravan once a year.

 

It makes sense and is a great idea, but expensive for what i need. If i fall out of a tree as a result of not having the training, then that is my own silly fault!!

 

john..

I don't support all the recent setting up for training this and training that just as a way of making a buck But ...If as you say  you " only do this thing once in a while "  that isn't gaining much experience . So, if during one of those " once in a while " episodes  you put the saw into your thigh and bleed out in seconds are you going to say " thats my own silly fault " ?  assuming you have time that is .......

[Khriss]

I had mate in Essex, good certificated climber, fell out of fruit tree- broke his neck. 6 months in neck brace, dunno wot he did, dont think he did. Ticket made no difference, K

[Pete Mctree]

1 minute ago, Khriss said:

I had mate in Essex, good certificated climber, fell out of fruit tree- broke his neck. 6 months in neck brace, dunno wot he did, dont think he did. Ticket made no difference, K

What a retarded comparison- your mate knew what was right and wrong but made a poor choice. John does not have sufficient knowledge to make good decisions which is the problem. 
 

 

[Rich Rule]

5 hours ago, john87 said:

Ah, yes, i see what you mean now!!

 

Yes, you are obviously correct in what you say, but for the amount i do... I know that is a bit daft, as i could hurt myself badly as you say if things go wrong adn accidents will happen..

 

Have a read of this.. It was my partners mums boyfriend...

 

john..

 

Man kills wife in tragic chainsaw accident | Daily Mail Online

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A husband is being treated for shock after his wife was killed in a tragic accident when he fell from a ladder while using a...

 

That was in Eltham, I remember it well.

 

We were getting phone calls to take out shrubs after that.

[john87]

11 minutes ago, Rich Rule said:

That was in Eltham, I remember it well.

 

We were getting phone calls to take out shrubs after that.

Yes, that is where they lived Eltham.. Terrible thing to happen. The poor man still has therapy now.. It is not helped by the fact that although the police firstly thought it might be "foul play" but later decided otherwise, some of his children still do not believe him which obviously tears him apart..

 

I cannot imagine what it must have been like for him.. Even to say awful feels like taking the piss, simply unimaginable is all i can say. He is a lovely bloke too, met him a few times now..

 

john..

[Khriss]

59 minutes ago, Pete Mctree said:

What a retarded comparison- your mate knew what was right and wrong but made a poor choice. John does not have sufficient knowledge to make good decisions which is the problem. 
 

 

Is it now. Just that i dont judge people on online face value. He has as good a chance as any, though obviously not according to you. K

[Pete Mctree]

39 minutes ago, Khriss said:

Is it now. Just that i dont judge people on online face value. He has as good a chance as any, though obviously not according to you. K

You been having a binge on the wine gums again or have you been reading different threads? John has been asking basic albeit very relavant questions, indicating a lack of knowledge not ability. Perhaps I like watching people succeed & thrive and a bit more knowledge would load the die in his favour. P 

[john87]

2 hours ago, Khriss said:

Is it now. Just that i dont judge people on online face value. He has as good a chance as any, though obviously not according to you. K

Hi Kriss, Thanks for the vote of confidence!! I hope i have as good a chance as others, i am good at most things and i have survived this far!!

[john87]

1 hour ago, Pete Mctree said:

You been having a binge on the wine gums again or have you been reading different threads? John has been asking basic albeit very relavant questions, indicating a lack of knowledge not ability. Perhaps I like watching people succeed & thrive and a bit more knowledge would load the die in his favour. P 

"John has been asking basic albeit very relavant questions, indicating a lack of knowledge not ability. Perhaps I like watching people succeed & thrive and a bit more knowledge would load the die in his favour. P"

 

Yes, and i think your comment is very constructive too..

 

To go off on a tangent a bit. Yes i could fall out of the tree, hurt myself with the saw etc, but i think i can keep myself safe..

 

Do you know what worries me more [being 60] I do worry about if i had a heart attack or a stroke up a tree.. Then you would be in BIG trouble..

 

Anyone else worry about that sort of thing??

 

john..