Advise on 1st Chainsaw for home use

[Stubby]

1 minute ago, gary112 said:

Saul what makes you say that not detentioning the chain can possibly bend the crankshaft,cos i,ve never heard or experienced it

Nor I . At the end of the day it will be slack anyway due to ware .

Edited October 9, 2021 by Stubby

[gary112]

1 minute ago, Stubby said:

Nor I . At the end of the day it will be slack anyway due to ware .

Thats my thinking aswell

[Rough Hewn]

Saul what makes you say that not detentioning the chain can possibly bend the crankshaft,cos i,ve never heard or experienced it

Because I’ve seen it.

[Stubby]

3 minutes ago, Rough Hewn said:

Because I’ve seen it.

Saul , you have seen a crank shaft snap/bend due to a chain contracting after it has cooled down ?

Edited October 9, 2021 by Stubby

[Mike Hill]

2 minutes ago, Rough Hewn said:

Because I’ve seen it.

So the threads in the chain tensioner held but the crank bent?

 

And the barstuds stopped holding the bar?

 

And the crank bent past the outside bearing?

 

All from a tight chain cooling down?

 

Lies.

 

 

[Rough Hewn]

Saul , you have seen a crank shaft snap/bend due to a chain contracting after it has cooled down ?

Back in Brighton about 6? Years ago,
There was a lad selling used power tools in a unit opposite.
He brought over a 361 one day and asked if it was any good.
When I pulled the starter cord the chain started moving, without the engine starting.
Interesting I thought, so took off the side cover, bar and chain. When I pulled the starter cord the whole clutch housing rolled around, and not the way it should do.
The bar and chain were toasted with burnt crap.
Presumed over heated chain with repeated over tensioning then left to go cold.
Can’t see any other way that could have happened.

[Stubby]

If you connected a chain to a crank shaft and anchored one end and the other to a tensile testing machiene I am pretty sure the chain would snap before the crank shaft . 

Edited October 9, 2021 by Stubby

[Rough Hewn]

So the threads in the chain tensioner held but the crank bent?
 
And the barstuds stopped holding the bar?
 
And the crank bent past the outside bearing?
 
All from a tight chain cooling down?
 
Lies.
 
 

Ok. You supply the saw, I’ll supply the chains.
Let’s test it.

[Mike Hill]

@Rough Hewn

 

I am not agreeing with you, you are making stuff up to try and cover up your lack of actual experiance.

 

You got knocked back for job as a groundy at a council up north ffs. Thats where your experiance lies.

5 minutes ago, Rough Hewn said:

Back in Brighton about 6? Years ago,
There was a lad selling used power tools in a unit opposite.
He brought over a 361 one day and asked if it was any good.
When I pulled the starter cord the chain started moving, without the engine starting.
Interesting I thought, so took off the side cover, bar and chain. When I pulled the starter cord the whole clutch housing rolled around, and not the way it should do.
The bar and chain were toasted with burnt crap.
Presumed over heated chain with repeated over tensioning then left to go cold.
Can’t see any other way that could have happened.

A broken clutch spring will engage the drum and spin the chain.Did you pop the drum off?

 

You know FA about saws mate.

[Stubby]

2 minutes ago, Rough Hewn said:

Back in Brighton about 6? Years ago,
There was a lad selling used power tools in a unit opposite.
He brought over a 361 one day and asked if it was any good.
When I pulled the starter cord the chain started moving, without the engine starting.
Interesting I thought, so took off the side cover, bar and chain. When I pulled the starter cord the whole clutch housing rolled around, and not the way it should do.
The bar and chain were toasted with burnt crap.
Presumed over heated chain with repeated over tensioning then left to go cold.
Can’t see any other way that could have happened.

That's an assumption .  Could have been the usual Stihl oval crank shaft/clutch bearing syndrome that is well documented .